Reno, advice needed

[starr1005]

Ok, so I originally thought I would do this myself, but we got a couple quotes and they weren't too scary.. but I want to make sure I'm not missing anything ir getting anything I don't need

About 8 years ago we covered the pool, and cut out the equipment, burying it at ground level.

We got a quote to knock out the hallow spots and re plaster. We plan to use the 2nd plaster option.
They will also identify, pressure test, and install equipment as listed in the picture. I just want to make sure everything on there is necessary?
He is going to try and get my old light working for a couple hundred bucks, but if not, should I just filling in and use wireless lights?
In line chlorinator actually needed?
Polaris, should I just buy and install myself?
Bead blasting tile, can I just pressure wash and scrub it?

Anything else I should ask about or include?

Thanks ahead of time!

 

[PoolStored]

They will also identify, pressure test, and install equipment as listed in the picture. I just want to make sure everything on there is necessary?
He is going to try and get my old light working for a couple hundred bucks, but if not, should I just filling in and use wireless lights?
In line chlorinator actually needed?
Polaris, should I just buy and install myself?
Bead blasting tile, can I just pressure wash and scrub it?

Have them specify the MODEL # of the filter, pump.
Get the largest filter you can afford. Many year like the Pentair Clean&Clear PLUS, or Waterway in either 420 or 520.
Get an intelliflo3 VARIABLE speed pump. The 3hp is nice. Then you don't need a timeclock, and VSP will save you $$ on your electric bill.
Ditch the chlorinator. Quickest way to kill a heater, and they are expensive. Have them quote a salt water chlorine generator that is 2x the pool volume.
Boost pump/pressure side cleaner is not in my wheelhouse. Some like them some don't. Booster pumps are an added cost and maintenance. Might consider, not a recommendation, a robot.

Be careful on the bead blasting:

In general with any kind of blasting work, you want to match the blasting media so that it is as hard or harder than the material you want to remove but not so hard that it damages the underlying substrate. As you can see from above, the kierserite and glass beads will satisfy the first criteria BUT the glass beads can also cut into the tile glaze.

Waterline Scale Removal - Further Reading

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[starr1005]

Have them specify the MODEL # of the filter, pump.
Get the largest filter you can afford. Many year like the Pentair Clean&Clear PLUS, or Waterway in either 420 or 520.
Get an intelliflo3 VARIABLE speed pump. The 3hp is nice. Then you don't need a timeclock, and VSP will save you $$ on your electric bill.
Ditch the chlorinator. Quickest way to kill a heater, and they are expensive. Have them quote a salt water chlorine generator that is 2x the pool volume.
Boost pump/pressure side cleaner is not in my wheelhouse. Some like them some don't. Booster pumps are an added cost and maintenance. Might consider, not a recommendation, a robot.

Be careful on the bead blasting:

In general with any kind of blasting work, you want to match the blasting media so that it is as hard or harder than the material you want to remove but not so hard that it damages the underlying substrate. As you can see from above, the kierserite and glass beads will satisfy the first criteria BUT the glass beads can also cut into the tile glaze.

Waterline Scale Removal - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com

I should have said, we are not doing the heater, does that change your thought on a chlorinator?
He also said variable speed pump but i will confirm. If it's variable speed, then I don't need the clock you are saying?
I will get the other equipment info as well and report back.

Thanks for the advice on blasting.

I've seen some other stuff on a chlorine generator, is that now the preferred way to go?

 

[PoolStored]

I should have said, we are not doing the heater, does that change your thought on a chlorinator?

No. Pucks add CYA, they are not sustainable. You either go (LC) OR (SWG), or (use pucks until your CYA get to 60, convert to liquid, allow CYA to drop to 30, go back to pucks) or (use pucks until your CYA gets to 60, drain and replace enough to get to 30, then continue with pucks.
Read this:

SWG How It Works - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com

He also said variable speed pump but i will confirm. If it's variable speed, then I don't need the clock you are saying?

Correct. The VSP has it's own clock and configurable programming and should be wired directly to GFCI breaker.

I will get the other equipment info as well and report back.

Thanks for the advice on blasting.

I've seen some other stuff on a chlorine generator, is that now the preferred way to go?

In TX? Pfffffft...no question. Get one that is rated for 2x your pool volume.

 

[starr1005]

No. Pucks add CYA, they are not sustainable. You either go (LC) OR (SWG), or (use pucks until your CYA get to 60, convert to liquid, allow CYA to drop to 30, go back to pucks) or (use pucks until your CYA gets to 60, drain and replace enough to get to 30, then continue with pucks.
Read this:

SWG How It Works - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com

Correct. The VSP has it's own clock and configurable programming and should be wired directly to GFCI breaker.

In TX? Pfffffft...no question. Get one that is rated for 2x your pool volume.

Good to know, I will look into a SWG

 

[starr1005]

No. Pucks add CYA, they are not sustainable. You either go (LC) OR (SWG), or (use pucks until your CYA get to 60, convert to liquid, allow CYA to drop to 30, go back to pucks) or (use pucks until your CYA gets to 60, drain and replace enough to get to 30, then continue with pucks.
Read this:

SWG How It Works - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com

Correct. The VSP has it's own clock and configurable programming and should be wired directly to GFCI breaker.

In TX? Pfffffft...no question. Get one that is rated for 2x your pool volume.

Ok, he came back with the equipment.
Intelliflo3 1.5 hp and pentair clean and clear plus 520 sq ft. Is that a good size for 18k?

Also had him quote a salt generator, he quoted the pentair one with a IC40 cell.

 

[PoolStored]

Those are all good choices. How much more is the 3hp inelliflo3?

Are you doing automation?

 

[starr1005]

Those are all good choices. How much more is the 3hp inelliflo3?

Are you doing automation?

I waa going to ask him that same question on the pump... is it worth it to go bigger on the pump too?

Not sure what you mean by automation... but it sounds like something i want!

 

[PoolStored]

Depends on the price difference. Larger will be quieter and save a bit on electricity, but the biggest benefit is VSP over single speed.

Automation - Further Reading

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[starr1005]

Depends on the price difference. Larger will be quieter and save a bit on electricity, but the biggest benefit is VSP over single speed.

Automation - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com

I guess baby steps for now on the automation. 3hp is 650 more, so I will go with that.

He quoted the intellichlor for 2200.. I see the pure line is about a grand, but I would have to install it myself. Are they equal players? I'm pretty confident that i could install it.

 

[PoolStored]

If you are going automation in the future, get all the same brand...Pentair.

You want an SWG that twice the volume of the pool. What is the volume of the pool. If 20K, get a 40K cell.

 

[starr1005]

If you are going automation in the future, get all the same brand...Pentair.

You want an SWG that twice the volume of the pool. What is the volume of the pool. If 20K, get a 40K cell.

Good deal,thanks for all the help.

It is 20k, or closer to 18 really.