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That document perpetuates the turnover myth that we trying to get our members to ignore.
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Yes, I lubed it with silocone grease when I opened it up to clean it. I also cleaned and inspected the o-ring. Seemed OK.
This is awesome. Thanks for sharing it. I agree that it sort of perpetuates the myth, but the explanations on TDH are great.
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You can also read this if you are interested:
www.troublefreepool.com
Hydraulics 101 - Have you lost your head?
Edit - Before reading this article, you may want to first familiarize yourself with this Pool School article on Pump Basics Hydraulics 101 - Pump Head Curves, Plumbing Head Curves and Operating Points Hydraulic Head In fluid dynamics, head is a concept that relates the energy in an...
www.troublefreepool.com
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Is the salt cell in backwards?
See the arrows on the top and sides?
See the arrows on the top and sides?
- Jul 21, 2013
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It should work either way.
I don't think that it makes a big difference, but it seems that the arrows might have a reason.
I don't think that it makes a big difference, but it seems that the arrows might have a reason.
You gave me hope, but no I checked and it is inserted correctly. The arrow in the cover matches the arrows in the body as well as arrows in inlet/outlet.
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This is your return line and the water flows opposite the arrows!
Wait, are you saying the entire fitting is backwards? I thought you meant the cell that you can take out to clean, but you're referring to the entire housing??
I went out and checked and indeed, it seems to be backwards. The pipe that feeds it is coming from the heater which I believe is the next to last element in the chain before going thorugh the salt cell. Would this be causing the issue?
I'm emailing Jandy and they want to send a rep out because they too find it odd that the pump will not hold the pump full of water when reducing RPMs.
Yes, but I think it will work either way.
I don't think that will cause any significant problems.
However, they did put a lot of arrows on it, so maybe there is a reason?
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Page 12: https://www.jandy.com/-/media/zodia...?rev=7f05ef570d984994831ef618a6cf6529?force=1
There doesn't appear to be an external flow switch so perhaps there is an internal flow switch. But the unit should have alarmed.
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Same purpose as a flow switch. When flow stops, gas accumulates and breaks the circuit. I would still call it a flow switch or perhaps flow "detector".
It is still possible that the flow direction could affect the sensor depending on it's placement but maybe not always.
It is still possible that the flow direction could affect the sensor depending on it's placement but maybe not always.
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The cell has a little sensor at the top that checks for continuity through the water in the cell.
If gas builds up, the sensor loses continuity as the sensor is not in the water.
This is why the manual is specific about where the cell is placed.
If gas builds up, the sensor loses continuity as the sensor is not in the water.
This is why the manual is specific about where the cell is placed.
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In Australia, the SWGs are required to have a gas trap and that is why they all have this awkward and goofy plumbing design.
The cell has to trap the gas so that the sensor loses conductivity from the two points in the cell testing for conductivity through the water.
The cell has to trap the gas so that the sensor loses conductivity from the two points in the cell testing for conductivity through the water.
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Those types of cells are notorious for shutting off on low speed of a VS pump because it does not have enough flow to evacuate the gas. I think they more of a hazard than a benefit. I have seen people installing them upside down to get around the problem which of course defeats the purpose of the sensor.
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Interesting that the flow switch answers the question “Is there water flowing so it is OK to generate?”
The gas trap is probably safer by answering “Is there gas accumulating so the cell must shutdown?”
If the purpose is to prevent dangerous gas accumulation then the gas trap is probably a better and more reliable method.
The gas trap is probably safer by answering “Is there gas accumulating so the cell must shutdown?”
If the purpose is to prevent dangerous gas accumulation then the gas trap is probably a better and more reliable method.
Heaters use a pressure switch and call it a flow switch even though it does not detect flow.
The conductivity sensor in the gas-trap design only detects conductivity and not flow, but they call it a flow sensor.
In any case, it should be installed correctly because the manual says several times to make sure that the arrows are pointing in the direction of flow, so maybe it matters.
They can use unions to reverse the cell.
I think that the pump issue is probably unrelated to the cell issue.
The conductivity sensor in the gas-trap design only detects conductivity and not flow, but they call it a flow sensor.
In any case, it should be installed correctly because the manual says several times to make sure that the arrows are pointing in the direction of flow, so maybe it matters.
They can use unions to reverse the cell.
I think that the pump issue is probably unrelated to the cell issue.