Pp newbie looking for help

[Aramor]

, then as I testing and adding Chlorine, how I should proceed? test and add chlorine like at 9 pm and wait for 30 minutes and test again? This would be the starting point for OCTL? And no more testing and no more chlorine until tomorrow before sunrise?

And if everything is fine, what is the next step?
my levels before slamming were the following:
CYA : 30
Salt : 2100
TA 80
CH. 250

do I need test CYA again before doing anything, and put the new level and the Fc level in Pool math to get how much stabilizer is needed? Or how it works?

Also I need add the salt? When?

During this process SWG still off?
If swg still off, do I need to keep testing FC and adding chlorine ? What’s the target now?

What about the SWG? When should I turn it on?
Percentage? How long?

Omgggg!!! I am sorry, I am completely new in that, and many doubts come to me.

Thanks a lot!

 

[PoolStored]

, then as I testing and adding Chlorine, how I should proceed? test and add chlorine like at 9 pm and wait for 30 minutes and test again? This would be the starting point for OCTL? And no more testing and no more chlorine until tomorrow before sunrise?

Yes. Test FC AND CC both tests.

 

[Aramor]

Hello everybody!! The first of all, thank so much for your support, without your advices and guide i would be getting crazy.
I am completely new in pools care.
Tonight I am gonna do OCTL after slamming , bc water is stoopid clear, and no algae.
So bc I am testing and adding Chlorine, how I should proceed with OCTL? test and add chlorine like at 9 pm and wait for 30 minutes and test again? This would be the starting point for OCTL? And no more testing and no more chlorine until tomorrow before sunrise?

And if everything is fine, what is the next step?
my levels before slamming were the following:
CYA : 30
Salt : 2100
TA 80
CH. 250

- do I need test CYA again before doing anything, and put the new level and the Fc level in Pool math to get how much stabilizer is needed? Or how it works?

- Also I need add the salt? When?

- During this process SWG still off?
If swg still off, do I need to keep testing FC and adding chlorine ? What’s the target now?

What about the SWG? When should I turn it on?
Percentage? How long?

Omgggg!!! I am sorry, I am completely new in that, and many doubts come to me.

Thanks a lot!

 

[Aramor]

Yes. Test FC AND CC both tests.

I will do it like that. Thank you so much for your help and patience. I am gonna move questions about SWG to the corresponding section.
Thanks again

 

[PoolStored]

I will answer them here, I just wanted your confirmation on the testing.

do I need test CYA again before doing anything, and put the new level and the Fc level in Pool math to get how much stabilizer is needed? Or how it works?

Test CYA again. Use pool math to figure out how much to add to get to your target. Use the sock method to add to pool. When the sock hits the pool, raise your FC to target for the new CYA value.

Also I need add the salt? When?

Anytime. Get the manual on your cell and find the acceptable range. Add 80% of the needed salt to get to the middle of the range for your cell. Leave cell off for 24 hours while salt gets mixed.

During this process SWG still off?
If swg still off, do I need to keep testing FC and adding chlorine ? What’s the target now?

Yes, Yes, Target FC is new target fc for the CYA level you just added CYA to attain.

What about the SWG? When should I turn it on?

24 hours after adding salt.

Percentage? How long?

Use effects of adding in pool math to figure out how to add 4ppm FC daily. You can vary pump run time or % output. 4FC should be a safe starting level.

Omgggg!!! I am sorry, I am completely new in that, and many doubts come to me.

You'll get it!

 

[Aramor]

Quick question,
I know I have to run the pump for 30’ high after adding chlorine and before second test fc to do OCLT , but my question is , do I need turn the pump off during night and turn it on 30 minutes before sunrise ?

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[Texas Splash]

I know I have to run the pump for 30’ high after adding chlorine and before second test fc to do OCLT , but my question is , do I need turn the pump off during night and turn it on 30 minutes before sunrise ?

Looks like you never got a reply last night. Probably doesn't matter now huh? Well, to answer your question, the concept is to ensure the chlorine is mixed well in the water for the OCLT (both tests). Me personally, I like to lave the pump running continuously so I don't have to worry about start/stop times. Any low speed is fine as long as the water is moving.

Now if someone elects to turn off their pump at night, there are two concerns:
1 - For the nighttime test, make sure any final chlorine added had at least 30 minutes to mix really well before taking that first water sample. Then you can turn off the pump.
2 - For the morning test, turn on the pump and let the water mix really well for at least 30 minutes before grabbing the second water sample for testing (before the sun hits the water of course).

 

[Aramor]

Quick question,
I know I have to run the pump for 30’ high after adding chlorine and before second test fc to do OCLT , but my question is , do I need turn the pump off during night and turn it on 30 minutes before sunrise ?

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Good morning, I turn ed off the pump. Now it’s working for 30 minutes high and in a while I will know results.

If slam is done:

- test cya, use Pool Math to get how much add to get target (cya target = 75). I have instant Pool Water Conditioner (dense liquid).

- new FC TARGET for CYA TARGET is 5.5 so

Cya=75 —— FC =5.5 (5.5 -10.5)

- how long do I need to wait since I add Cya until I test FC ? My fc now is higher (around 10) than my new FC TARGET (5.5) in this case do I need let it go to my new FC TARGET before testing CYA OR it’s doesn’t matter, and even is higher just do not add chlorine and let it go until new fc target and keep it ). For that I need test Fc daily how many times?

- about salt , I looked for the range to my Swg, and the only thing I found was a chart of how much salt have to be added depending on current salt level, and barely is the same than Pool Math said, but then I need to add just the 80% of that amount?

 

[Texas Splash]

- test cya, use Pool Math to get how much add to get target (cya target = 75). I have instant Pool Water Conditioner (dense liquid).

Yes, that's fine. But don't try to split the CYA reading (i.e. 75.) If it's closer to 70, call it 70. If it looks halfway or closer to 80, just call it 80.

- new FC TARGET for CYA TARGET is 5.5 so

Cya=75 —— FC =5.5 (5.5 -10.5)

Basically yes. Again though, keep it simple and don't try to split the CYA numbers into half's. Refer to the chart below.

- how long do I need to wait since I add Cya until I test FC ?

You can test FC at any time. Adding the liquid conditioner doesn't effect the FC test.

 

[Aramor]

Looks like you never got a reply last night. Probably doesn't matter now huh? Well, to answer your question, the concept is to ensure the chlorine is mixed well in the water for the OCLT (both tests). Me personally, I like to lave the pump running continuously so I don't have to worry about start/stop times. Any low speed is fine as long as the water is moving.

Now if someone elects to turn off their pump at night, there are two concerns:
1 - For the nighttime test, make sure any final chlorine added had at least 30 minutes to mix really well before taking that first water sample. Then you can turn off the pump.
2 - For the morning test, turn on the pump and let the water mix really well for at least 30 minutes before grabbing the second water sample for testing (before the sun hits the water of course).

Nothing. My starting point was 12 (my slam target) and now my fc is 10. That means that still have alge, right?
I thought it was gonna be ok
Maybe I did something wrong. I run my pump high 30 minutes after add last dose of chlorine, and then I test fc (starting point), I turned off the pump during night and I run again at high this morning for 39 minutes at 6:00 am

 

[Texas Splash]

That means that still have alge, right?

Rats. Yes, you must continue the SLAM.

I would keep the FC at the proper SLAM level today and do another Overnight Chlorine Loss Test starting this evening. Remember, a low rpm is absolutely fine. No need to run on a high speed. If it were me, I would just leave the pump on a low rpm of about 1,300 - 1,500 rpm all night for the OCLT. That way you know the water is totally mixed the entire time.

If you fail another OCLT, we'll need to go back and review for any other possible causes.

 

[Aramor]

Then just leave my pump run low, like the rest the day, test fc at least 30 minutes after adding last dose of chlorine, or even more? Can I test fc starting point like at 11pm and last added chlorine like at 9pm?

 

[Texas Splash]

Then just leave my pump run low, like the rest the day, test fc at least 30 minutes after adding last dose of chlorine, or even more? Can I test fc starting point like at 11pm and last added chlorine like at 9pm?

Correct.

 

[Aramor]

Correct.

Perfect, the only thing is that the minimum speed the spa needs to water been circulating is 2400, if I set up less speed the spa returning jets don’t work. Pool and spa are in same body.
So, I set up the pump to 2400.
Why spa water is not circulating at low speed?
It doesn’t make sense, bc I think one of the advantages having a variable speed pump is running a slow speed for long time to save energy.

 

[Texas Splash]

Why spa water is not circulating at low speed?

Might have something to do with a blower set-up? I'll ask @Jimrahbe for an opinion.

In the meantime, see if you can post a couple pics of your equipment pad so Jim can see what you have there on the pad. It would help to see control valves, plumbing lines, etc.

 

[Aramor]

Might have something to do with a blower set-up? I'll ask @Jimrahbe for an opinion.

In the meantime, see if you can post a couple pics of your equipment pad so Jim can see what you have there on the pad. It would help to see control valves, plumbing lines, etc.

 

[Aramor]

Iaqualinnk pic , just in case helps

 

[Texas Splash]

I have a feeling whoever set up your automation just plugged those number in. Based on the equipment itself, I don't think you are forced to stay at those rpms, even for the spa, but I'll defer that to @Jimrahbe when gets a moment to catch up on replies.

 

[Aramor]

I have a feeling whoever set up your automation just plugged those number in. Based on the equipment itself, I don't think you are forced to stay at those rpms, even for the spa, but I'll defer that to @Jimrahbe when gets a moment to catch up on replies.

Initially pum was running at 3000, I tried to lower and it was when i fiound up that spa wasn’t working, and i adjusted the speed until spa worked, so to 2400

 

[Aramor]

Initially pum was running at 3000, I tried to lower and it was when i fiound up that spa wasn’t working, and i adjusted the speed until spa worked, so to 2400

This is the initial configuration