Plaster repair always going to look noticeable?

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Well after a [very] quick peruse of the ol'net, where everything one reads or sees on YouTube is 100% real and true (just like this post!), it seems:

- they can gather the ingredients at a plant and have them mixed their too, and then transported to your pool for install, or

- they can load the ingredients into the transport truck at a plant, and then the truck mixes it on the way to your pool, or

- they can drag all the ingredients to your house and mix it right there in the street.

I guess it depends on time and distance and money, and what kind of equipment your PB has...
 
Though still a “Shotcrete” (just be cause pneumaticly places) Gunite aka dry mix is an outdated name for dry delivered & wetted at the nozzle.

-Shotcrete is delivered wet.

So to the big question, if the pool is “gunite”
travel is not a factor.
 
PoolguyinCT,

On the off chance that they'd want to pursue this course of action, how would the OP go about getting the shell and plaster inspected by a third party? Any guidance on that? Any chance of that?

- How to find a guy? What would be a job description to search for?
- How to verify his expertise?
- How to get him to show up?
- How to coordinate that with the PB (and not alienate him even more)?

Is that all just a fantasy? Or is it ever done?
 
Core sample for lab analysis.

Seek a state deemed SME (subject matter expert) & certified (depending on the state) expert witness.

APSP chapter in the owners state should lead to a qualified referral.


& the easy answer: How to get him to show up?? MONEY!!
 
I will have to get with my husband to find out about the shell of the pool material and how/where it was mixed. I was at work when all of that took place. They were supposed to be here to drain the pool Monday, but just now showed up. They've had problems with another pool in the area (not our same problem). The soil in our area can be extremely sandy and tends to cave in when digging deep. We found this out when we dug out for our storm shelter, and the dirt around it just kept caving in continuously. Lost a rose bush and almost an ac unit. We did warn the pool builder of that problem before hand, but it still was still extremely difficult.
I do know that the original plaster was mixed on site as we had it sitting here for a few days on pallets waiting on them to get started. It did rain like crazy and we covered it the best we could with several tarps, but a few bags were lost. They've already delivered the plaster for this job too and we immediately put it in our garage so something like that doesn't happen again.
On an interesting note, the glass tile that I ordered, from a different company, with a totally different manufacturer name, and color name, looks exactly the same as the tile they are going to have to replace. Now that was funny.
 
Yay! Glad to hear of the tale of the tile. We're going to take that as an omen that all is going to go "swimmingly" with this second go round!
 
socks

Here's a link to a concrete comp in Dothan Al, they/re about 9.7 miles from you and work in a radius of 2 hr drive, which you're well within..the drive by google is 17 minutes. Whatever you feel comfortable with bc I am not a concrete masonry expert, so hopefully one way or another you can obtain some resolve - good luck, tstex

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Well, they started chipping out the pool today. The sub that's doing the work actually used to do plaster. I didn't ask him why he didn't do that anymore, but he was shocked at the condition of the plaster. Pitting, holes, and when they started to chip out the bottom it came up so easily it was unreal. It was super thin and hadn't attached or bonded to the concrete. The sides are another story and it's taking them quite a bit longer. They plan to finish chipping it out, clean it all up, and then apply a bond coat over the concrete before applying the new plaster. We will also insist on the head contractor/owner being here the entire day that the plaster is applied.
Thanks for the info Tstex. I will pass it on to my husband. (P.S. I'm originally from Texas. Lol. I was born in Houston)
 
In the mood for some blessings in disguise? That this all happened now, instead of later, while the contractor is still on the hook, and alive and in business. The plasterers did a bad job, but at least they did such a bad job that it showed up before your warranty expired!
 
The chip out makes our pool look like the surface of the moon, or pitted like a golf ball. It's pretty disconcerting to look at. It will be the same plaster company. The owner of the pool company and the plaster company will both be on site. Hopefully this will be the end of the problems.
 
socks341968 said:
The chip out makes our pool look like the surface of the moon, or pitted like a golf ball. It's pretty disconcerting to look at. It will be the same plaster company. The owner of the pool company and the plaster company will both be on site. Hopefully this will be the end of the problems.
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All good news! So glad both owners will be there!

Kim:kim:
 
I tried to post more pictures, but it says I've reached my limit? Oh well. The crew that is working on the chip out is also doing the tile. He says he knows what he is doing, but complained about the glass tile that has the taped top? I thought that this made it easier to work with and longer lasting than the stuff on mesh? We also have a few areas where rebar is showing through the concrete. They say that this is fine and the plaster will cover it? I was under the impression that it needed to be covered in concrete to prevent staining the plaster in the future?
 
The tile with the tape on top is HARDER to work with as you have to have some skills BUT it does look better and stay on a lot better than the meshbacked ones.

They need to add some more concrete/shotcrete/gunite!! There should be NO rebar showing. It can cause problems down the road!

I always tell everyone to add about 6" from the steel to the water line area for the gunite and plaster knowing most of this is the gunite..........and you are saying it is not even 1" thick in places????? FULL STOP and have a good, long talk to both owners. This is YOUR pool and YOUR money and YOUR future pool so it needs to be done right this time!
 
socks341968 said:
I tried to post more pictures, but it says I've reached my limit? Oh well. The crew that is working on the chip out is also doing the tile. He says he knows what he is doing, but complained about the glass tile that has the taped top? I thought that this made it easier to work with and longer lasting than the stuff on mesh? We also have a few areas where rebar is showing through the concrete. They say that this is fine and the plaster will cover it? I was under the impression that it needed to be covered in concrete to prevent staining the plaster in the future?
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This is NOT ALRIGHT. This is why I recommended an independent concrete SME. The gunite should have been shot inches over all of the rebar, not 1-2" but 4-6+. That rebar should be VERY FAR from any water sources, or you're going to get oxidation/AKA rust.

Even though both owners of pool and plaster company will be there, they both are losing money [and deserve it] and don't want to lose anymore. But as k-kats said, it has to be done right from one phase to the other....Missing the bonding was a major flaw, so that, unfortunately, means there could be other things and now is the time to examine...

Keep us posted and good luck socks [former neighbor from Houston :)
 

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