pH keeps climbing 18 months after new plaster

kmerenda

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Nov 22, 2024
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Houston, TX
Hi all -

I bought a house with a 20 y/o in ground plaster pool in November 2022. its 12,500 gal with an attached spa, in-line chlorinator, Pentair variable speed pump, Master Temp heater, and and cartridge filter. It has a waterfall, but we never turn it on. The spa has an air blower, but we never turn it on.

When I bought the house, the pool was fine, but plaster was needing a resurface. At that time, the chemical levels stayed pretty consistent. In March 2023, I had it replastered with plain white plaster. Since then, I can't get the ph in check. I go through 16 oz of 31% muriatic acid every 1-2 days now - 19 months after the replaster. My other chemical levels are pretty stable.

Here is my last readings:
Free chlorine: 3.1
Total chlorine: 3.1
PH 8.1. (I usually lower it to 7.2-7.4)
Alk 57
Ca Hardness 387
CYA 48
Copper 0.1
Iron 0.0

I use Leslie's 3" jumbo tricolor tabs in the chlorinator - not more than 2 at a time. It runs through them every 2-3 weeks.
When the chlorine level is super low, I shock it with Leslie's Power Powder - 1 x 1lb bag.

Last spring/early summer, I added 13 boxes of 20-mule team borax...and a lot of muriatic acid. I was hoping that would help stabilize ph, but it seems to have made it just require more acid for any ph adjustment. 16 ounces of acid now gives me only a 0.2-0.3 ph drop. I've played with the alkalinity range, but the ph creep happens the same whether alkalinity is in the 50s or the 100s.

I keep the pool pretty clean - no trees overhead, and I manually vacuum or run the Polaris robot at least once weekly. I run the pump enough to cycle the pool about 3 times per day.

I assume the plaster is cause of the ph rise, since it was stable before the replaster, but I'm surprised to still be dealing with it after so long. Any ideas?
 
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Hi all -

I bought a house with a 20 y/o in ground plaster pool in November 2022. its 12,500 gal with an attached spa, in-line chlorinator, Pentair variable speed pump, Master Temp heater, and and cartridge filter. It has a waterfall, but we never turn it on. The spa has an air blower, but we never turn it on.

When I bought the house, the pool was fine, but plaster was needing a resurface. At that time, the chemical levels stayed pretty consistent. In March 2023, I had it replastered with plain white plaster. Since then, I can't get the ph in check. I go through 16 oz of 31% muriatic acid every 1-2 days now - 19 months after the replaster. My other chemical levels are pretty stable.

Here is my last readings:
Free chlorine: 3.1
Total chlorine: 3.1
PH 8.1. (I usually lower it to 7.2-7.4)
Alk 57
Ca Hardness 387
CYA 48
Copper 0.1
Iron 0.0

I use Leslie's 3" jumbo tricolor tabs in the chlorinator - not more than 2 at a time. It runs through them every 2-3 weeks.
When the chlorine level is super low, I shock it with Leslie's Power Powder - 1 x 1lb bag.

Last spring/early summer, I added 13 boxes of 20-mule team borax...and a lot of muriatic acid. I was hoping that would help stabilize ph, but it seems to have made it just require more acid for any ph adjustment. 16 ounces of acid now gives me only a 0.2-0.3 ph drop. I've played with the alkalinity range, but the ph creep happens the same whether alkalinity is in the 50s or the 100s.

I keep the pool pretty clean - no trees overhead, and I manually vacuum or run the Polaris robot at least once weekly. I run the pump enough to cycle the pool about 3 times per day.

I assume the plaster is cause of the ph rise, since it was stable before the replaster, but I'm surprised to still be dealing with it after so long. Any ideas?
I think you’ll find the pool store water tests and recommendations may be contributing to the pH rise. Lowering the pH below 7.6 also contributes to the pH rising. If we believed your alkalinity result, then it’d be pretty hard for the pH to be rising so fast. In reality, the alkalinity (TA) is probably much higher.

I’d recommend a the TF-Pro test kit recommended here as we just can’t trust the pool store.
 
If we believed your alkalinity result, then it’d be pretty hard for the pH to be rising so fast. In reality, the alkalinity (TA) is probably much higher.
That is an adjusted alkalinity and not comparable to TFP TA guidelines.


We cannot advise what to do until we see good water tests from a Taylor K-2096C or TFT Test Kits

 
Does your spa have a spillover and is the spillover always running?
 
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