O/B Pool Henderson Nevada..

Ok now I have the finish contracted.. WHEW......... Let's see if they can hold up to their schedule... So the new setback is the Pre-Plaster inspection. I failed because of the water bonding.... Trying to figure out what I have to do. The pool rebar was bonded in 6 places. I thought that was sufficient. I guess not.. SO can someone explain to me what water bonding is?
 
I called the plumber and said that he needs to bond the water and he responded by saying that the electrician needs to have a separate bond wire and lug. I told him that I have copper pool bond wire connected to the pumps, heater and electrical. What does the Plumber hook the wire to? What am I missing? What would the separate bond wire and lug connect to?

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The same bond wire that goes to the pumps and heater would connect to the water bond

You can see it here (bottom of the third pipe from the right):

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This is what mine looks like. They used a T instead of a 90 in this spot. 20180501_203140_resized.jpg
I don't think that every jurisdiction in LV requires it as this was an issue I caught during final electrical. The plumbers put the T with a pvc threaded plug in ready for electrical and said electricians would connect with a brass plug. The electricians ran a bond wire to the area during rough but did not provide, or mention the need for the plug. During final, they left the pile of wire unconnected. A few phone calls later they provided a plug but would not install. I screwed it in and connected the wire myself. I can't tell you if it was checked during inspection, as he came and left without me noticing.
 
So with a MiniPebble finish, how long does one have to wait to swim? I have read so many different time frames that people are saying. What are the recommend times or what have you done... I will have about 2 weeks once the finish is done before my 50th birthday pool party that the wife has planned. It's a surprise party that I'm not supposed to know about. So I'm asking about using the pool so I can get that info to her so in case she has to move the dates....

Hahahah this is the greatest post ever!!!
And I did tropics blue mini pebble and we swam maybe within the first few days then we waited after that until the salt water generator was in. Remember you can use bleach to sanitize the pool for the first month and anytime you need it there after
 

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So I’m kinda lost as well, I’m not sure I have this and not sure if it’s needed and what purpose does it serve. Care to shed some light on this for a pool noob

The purpose of bonding is to get all surfaces and materials in and around the pool at the same electrical potential. If there are differences then that's when people can get shocked or feel a tIngling sensation.

Depending on your setup the water can very well get bonded by the heater, some pumps or the pool light niches but since every pool is different, Building department's use water bonds as a catch-all since they really can't be sure if the water actually gets bonded.

I personally don't feel that a dedicated water bond is necessary in most cases but it's an inexpensive item that has no real downside to installing anyway... and if required by code, the decision is made for you
 
The purpose of bonding is to get all surfaces and materials in and around the pool at the same electrical potential. If there are differences then that's when people can get shocked or feel a tIngling sensation.

Depending on your setup the water can very well get bonded by the heater, some pumps or the pool light niches but since every pool is different, Building department's use water bonds as a catch-all since they really can't be sure if the water actually gets bonded.

I personally don't feel that a dedicated water bond is necessary in most cases but it's an inexpensive item that has no real downside to installing anyway... and if required by code, the decision is made for you

B- you might want to do a little local digging...

Steel Ladders & steel niches can satisfy water bond under most adaptations.

Heaters, stainless filters etc are not satisfactory water bonding -
they were ruled out, with the logic if a system looses prime they would not perform the task.

Water bonding has to below the normal operating water level of the vessel.

This ruling came our way about a year ago, for some reason we copy every California does about a year later.
 
B- you might want to do a little local digging...

Steel Ladders & steel niches can satisfy water bond under most adaptations.

Heaters, stainless filters etc are not satisfactory water bonding -
they were ruled out, with the logic if a system looses prime they would not perform the task.

Water bonding has to below the normal operating water level of the vessel.

This ruling came our way about a year ago, for some reason we copy every California does about a year later.

Not all jurisdictions require it though. My city does not require a water bond at all, the city next door does not require the bond if there is a heater or 120v lights, a few other cities require it no matter what...

Who uses steel ladders and light niches anymore :scratch:

In my eyes the tee costs next to nothing and you gotta run the bond wire anyway so why not?
 

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