I thought it was just a pool chemistry calculator. I understand a premium version stores your measurements, but the free one does not. Why am I asked to login and can't do anything without that?
New to PoolMath app. Asks for login. Why?
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Why is it a problem that you need to login with your anonymous TFP username ? After the first time, it'll just remeber you. IIRC I got bumped once due to an update, but never had to log in again otherwise.
It is setup so it may be linked to your TFP account in case you need help and would like us to see the data. You don't have to enable sharing, but you can. Nothing personal is shared, just your screen name and test results that you logged.
You don't need to join TFP to use poolmath, but you need to 'join' poolmath in a similar fashion if not.
The free version stores one log at a time. You can delete it each time you have a new one and store that one so you remember at your next test. The premium version (best $8 a year anyone might spend) saves all of the logs and we can often reverse engineer a problem, or forsee it happening and change course before it does.
It is setup so it may be linked to your TFP account in case you need help and would like us to see the data. You don't have to enable sharing, but you can. Nothing personal is shared, just your screen name and test results that you logged.
You don't need to join TFP to use poolmath, but you need to 'join' poolmath in a similar fashion if not.
The free version stores one log at a time. You can delete it each time you have a new one and store that one so you remember at your next test. The premium version (best $8 a year anyone might spend) saves all of the logs and we can often reverse engineer a problem, or forsee it happening and change course before it does.
Because it is extra work that is not needed. Would now have to add my TFP login (wasn't clear I could use that and was definitely not going to use my Google login) to both our phones and change them too when (not if) TFP gets hacked I already have so freakin many accounts for things that shouldn't need one, but you can't use them without, that I have become VERY annoyed with it. Everybody requires an account these days. Tired of the extra login credential management. Tired of the data gathering and selling.
I log all our pool info in OneNote. much more comprehensive.
If I want to share my info with TFP it could ask for my login then, although in that rare case it's probably way easier to just post the numbers.
The only reason I wanted to use the PoolMath app was for calculating acid demand, since the TF-Pro kit doesn't include it. TF-Pro and the app seemed easier than the Taylor K2006 acid-demand drop test we've been using for years.
I'm not ok with the login requirement, so I'll just use the webversion or find some other calculator.
I log all our pool info in OneNote. much more comprehensive.
If I want to share my info with TFP it could ask for my login then, although in that rare case it's probably way easier to just post the numbers.
The only reason I wanted to use the PoolMath app was for calculating acid demand, since the TF-Pro kit doesn't include it. TF-Pro and the app seemed easier than the Taylor K2006 acid-demand drop test we've been using for years.
I'm not ok with the login requirement, so I'll just use the webversion or find some other calculator.
- Jul 21, 2013
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The "cost" of using the otherwise free version of the PoolMath app is a bit of your time for credential management. If that is too high of a cost then it is not the right value proposition for you.
And it's only once, like I said above.
I understand the hangups and I have dummy accounts for exactly that reason. (This one doesn't bother me but some do) When my new TV wouldn't fire up without a Gmail, I used one of the bogus ones. Usually it's a store that won't refund my purchase without my email, or such. Ok. Hereyago. Good luck with that.
I understand the hangups and I have dummy accounts for exactly that reason. (This one doesn't bother me but some do) When my new TV wouldn't fire up without a Gmail, I used one of the bogus ones. Usually it's a store that won't refund my purchase without my email, or such. Ok. Hereyago. Good luck with that.
redth
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- Jun 21, 2016
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Yeah, requiring a login is one of the things I'd like to eventually do away with but it's not high on the priority list as it's a fair bit of work for not a lot of gain to most users, especially those who pay for a subscription.
The app is very much built on the premise that you setup your "Pool" before you do anything else (volume, type, etc). We chose to require a login so that we wouldn't steer users down a possible path of setting things up on one device, then not logging in to "sync" them, and repeating this on some other device(s) where they could end up in a state of conflict across devices if and when they wanted to start sync'ing their info. So instead we said, let's always sync the info, even if you don't pay for the app, so that at least the information is consistent no matter where you login from, and avoid more potential for headaches with data duplicates/conflicts.
As with anything, it's entirely possible to achieve the app not requiring login with enough effort. However, I think most paying subscribers (who we will always need to be logged into the app) would rather see feature work that benefits them more directly.
The app is very much built on the premise that you setup your "Pool" before you do anything else (volume, type, etc). We chose to require a login so that we wouldn't steer users down a possible path of setting things up on one device, then not logging in to "sync" them, and repeating this on some other device(s) where they could end up in a state of conflict across devices if and when they wanted to start sync'ing their info. So instead we said, let's always sync the info, even if you don't pay for the app, so that at least the information is consistent no matter where you login from, and avoid more potential for headaches with data duplicates/conflicts.
As with anything, it's entirely possible to achieve the app not requiring login with enough effort. However, I think most paying subscribers (who we will always need to be logged into the app) would rather see feature work that benefits them more directly.
redth
TFP Guide
- Jun 21, 2016
- 111
- Pool Size
- 84000
- Surface
- Vinyl
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
It's also worth noting from a security perspective, the app does not store any password information. We don't even store auth tokens from google/facebook/apple when you use them to login, we simply associate the pool math data with the userid from these providers after you login (which is a unique userid for Pool Math - just like every app using google/facebook/apple gets a unique userid per user for their app). Similarly when you login with your TFP forum credentials, the app doesn't store these or any data from the forum other than your forum userid.
- Feb 6, 2015
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Use the same email and password you use in the forum here.
It isn't like TFP doesn't already store your user account info in an encrypted format anyway.
Good luck finding another calcuator that is kept as up to date as PoolMath.
Yeah - there are a couple out there. Sadly, they haven't kept up with current TFP methods.
It isn't like TFP doesn't already store your user account info in an encrypted format anyway.
Good luck finding another calcuator that is kept as up to date as PoolMath.
Yeah - there are a couple out there. Sadly, they haven't kept up with current TFP methods.
