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And sad news, got two packages, thought whale brush and test kit. Whale brush yes! Other package was something for wife... I’m going to be forced to get the lislie’s small kit

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I am restricting as much water use as possible. No dishes or sprinklers. In the morning the wife will want a shower.. I suppose a good thing.
Do I pause the fill for the quick shower or do I just subtract some number from total gallons

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riley00dog said:
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do you have any pictures?
 
I would just subtract some number. Don’t stop the fill for anything. Just google average amount of water used for shower of x length of time. You look to be filling quickly. Sad news that your test kit didn’t arrive, but great that you have your wall whale. Better get mine ready to use. We can be brushing buddies [emoji23]
 
Dirk said:
What are all the water paths from, those leading down to the pond from the tile, benches, shallow end, etc? Are they ongoing, or drying up and leaving no traces?

I'd like to see less hose touching, too, if possible. Probably nothing, but a PB did warn a new owner against fill hoses touching plaster. He saw it leave a mark in one of his pools. Probably the hose he used, but play it safe.
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those dried fine, where from the acid wash
 
riley00dog said:
I would just subtract some number. Don’t stop the fill for anything. Just google average amount of water used for shower of x length of time. You look to be filling quickly. Sad news that your test kit didn’t arrive, but great that you have your wall whale. Better get mine ready to use. We can be brushing buddies [emoji23]
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i think I will do that , subtract..don’t want to slow the process. I have determined, me sitting pool side and watching, is not going to make water fill faster
 
justinS said:
i think I will do that , subtract..don’t want to slow the process. I have determined, me sitting pool side and watching, is not going to make water fill faster
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[emoji23] I keep checking mine. Not sure if I can focus on anything else right now. This day has been so long in the making that it almost feels surreal. Yes, don’t stop or slow the fill for anything. You could tell your wife she can pretend she’s camping [emoji6]
 
[emoji23] give her a 10 litre bucket of water and a washer.

I’ve just done some quick calculations in my head and think my pool will be full at some ungodly hour. I had figured that it will take 17 hours to fill. I’m assuming the fill started somewhere between 11am and 11.30am. That should put me at full at about 4am [emoji15] You would think they would put some thought into this when they start the fill! Guess I’ll be getting up to my new baby during the night!
 
I've created a monster! Fillzilla! Love it!

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Don't stop the fill, not for any reason. Tomorrow morning, run a third hose to the pool, set your wife on the second step and just hose her down. Wont' affect the volume number at all if all the water falls into the pool!! ;)

Seriously, don't worry about what you're using in the house. Subtract a gallon for each toilet flush, and 30 for each shower if it makes you feel better. You could actually use twice what you normally use, each, and you'd still have a great number. A shower is like a 10th of 1% of your pool! The water meter has a margin of error of 1 to 1.5%, plus or minus. So a shower might actually get you closer to the actual number for all you know! Remember, most test kit tests have a margin of error of 10%, give or take, some of the tests worse than that. What you're doing and the number you come up with is going to be great for your needs.

If you're still up, run out and measure from the water to half way up the skimmer. Write it down along with the time. If you're like I was, you're gonna get up in the middle of night to check on the fill. Measure again. Do the math (inches per hour) and you'll be able to figure out within an hour or so how much more sleep you're gonna get tonight. If you're lucky, you won't have to get up again...
 

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Did you guys put a piece of tape next to the skimmer opening, half way up? Trust me. It's one of those things you're thinking "What the heck is this guy talking about?!" But when it's dark outside and you're trying to see where half way up is, with the water reflecting and refracting, it'll dawn on you then: "Dang you Dirk, that's what you meant!!"
 
Dirk said:
Did you guys put a piece of tape next to the skimmer opening, half way up? Trust me. It's one of those things you're thinking "What the heck is this guy talking about?!" But when it's dark outside and you're trying to see where half way up is, with the water reflecting and refracting, it'll dawn on you then: "Dang you Dirk, that's what you meant!!"
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I will be before I go to bed. Have enough trouble seeing at night without trying to make out a waterline at 4am. Have some blue tape ready to go.
 
You can fill wherever you want to, or need to. Sounds like they're saying overfill, cause you'll use that up. Put the tape where you think the normal level will be. Take the picture of the meter when the water hits the tape. Once you take the picture, you can overfill all you want.

You want your end result number to reflect the volume of water your pool will contain most of the time. It'll always vary: splash out, evaporation, rain, whatever... you're looking for the average. And if it turns out later that you missed the mark, and the average level is two inches higher, or whatever: then let the pool evaporate to where you marked it, take a snap shot of your meter again, fill the two inches, take a second snap shot, do the math, add that number to your original number. Similar exercise if you marked it too high.

When you take the second snap shot tomorrow, you might measure and record the distance between the water line and some known thing (like the bottom edge of your coping). That might come in handy for the future.

It's kinda catch 22. Your average level will actually be pretty stable, determined by the autofill and how you adjust it. But you can't adjust the auto fill until after you have water in the pool!

Two take aways: you can use the meter trick to fine tune later. And none of this matters too much. You'll be doing your dosing calc's with a number that most pool owners never get close to.
 
Dirk said:
You can fill wherever you want to, or need to. Sounds like they're saying overfill, cause you'll use that up. Put the tape where you think the normal level will be. Take the picture of the meter when the water hits the tape. Once you take the picture, you can overfill all you want.

You want your end result number to reflect the volume of water your pool will contain most of the time. It'll always vary: splash out, evaporation, rain, whatever... you're looking for the average. And if it turns out later that you missed the mark, and the average level is two inches higher, or whatever: then let the pool evaporate to where you marked it, take a snap shot of your meter again, fill the two inches, take a second snap shot, do the math, add that number to your original number. Similar exercise if you marked it too high.

When you take the second snap shot tomorrow, you might measure and record the distance between the water line and some known thing (like the bottom edge of your coping). That might come in handy for the future.

It's kinda catch 22. Your average level will actually be pretty stable, determined by the autofill and how you adjust it. But you can't adjust the auto fill until after you have water in the pool!

Two take aways: you can use the meter trick to fine tune later. And none of this matters too much. You'll be doing your dosing calc's with a number that most pool owners never get close to.
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Thanks Dirk. Good advise as usual. An especially good point is marking to where the water would typically sit and take the metre reading at that point, but then keep going if I want to. Also a good point about measuring down to waterline from a known point such as bottom of the coping. I’m really interested to see how close (or far off) the estimation I have is. No auto fill on the pool just an overflow. I have the flow metre that I can use to see how much I add to the pool in the future (and yes should have gone on today but didn’t - wasn’t going to stop the fill to attach them when I got home).

Do you ever sleep?
 
Dirk said:
;) Not much. I'm up all hours monitoring pool fills across the globe!!
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[emoji23] a very important job!

Have just rejigged my calculations with my actual fill rate of 1,278 litres per hour and for my rough volume estimate it is actually 21.1 hours, which would be around 8am. I will still get up as planned to check on it around 3-4am and see how it’s going. My tape didn’t stick well. Might have to go hunting for different tape to ensure it will stay on.
 

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