New HTH tabs - no CYA

[Marty D]

I ordered the TF-100. I also vacuum the pool and dumped out below the skimmer 6 inch. My new math using GPM. I dumped 12,000. 12,000 last week and about 6,000 the week before. I never added anything to this pool in 2 weeks now. The reading are. FC 6.57 TC 6. PH 7.6 hardness 100 Alkalinity 106 —— CA -CYA 200. Tomorrow I a few days I will dump again. Water is clean. I mean CLEAN !!! She sparkling clean. I also took filters out and used PH free dishwasher packs. Filters came out nice. I used hot water from out side shower with the new brush nozzle. I’m still the pool boy. Not paying $125 a week. Not happening on my watch.

 

[Marty D]

What was REALY killed me was the leaves I had to skim. Every time the wind blow 100 leaves in the pool. I got my chain saw and cut it down. It was tricky. Tree was 40 ft hanging over the pool. Had to use a come along and pull it away from pool. I was so pussyfoot that day I didn’t care if it hit the pool and rip the liner. That all worked out OK

 

[Marty D]

Tree landed close with only a few leaves in pool.

 

[cfherrman]

Use this format so we don't get confused

FC
Cc
pH
Ta
Ch
Cya

You like a FC of 6.5 and tc of 6, tc is always same or more that FC, we don't even care or use tc. We just use FC and cc as they are the only ones that matter.

With cya of 200 you need to get your FC in the 15-20 range

 

[kimkats]

DUDE!! That is mighty close!!!

Kim

 

[Household6]

MARTY!
Sloooow dooown my man and listen to these folks!

STOP STOP STOP dumping your water until you get your test kit and can provide the results.

I’m guessing the pool store has you in a tizzy for nothing! You must learn POP (pool owner patience)! (as if I have room to talk). Lol!

Seriously, take a deep breath and relax! Even if you fear getting into the water, take a seat next to it, have an adult beverage and enjoy the view a couple days.

The folks here will have you all proper in a short short while and save you a mess of money! [ask me how I know]

 

[Marty D]

Use this format so we don't get confused

FC
Cc
pH
Ta
Ch
Cya

You like a FC of 6.5 and tc of 6, tc is always same or more that FC, we don't even care or use tc. We just use FC and cc as they are the only ones that matter.

With cya of 200 you need to get your FC in the 15-20 range

I should add liquid chlorx at this time ?

 

[jblizzle]

You should any time your FC is droping below the minimum.

 

[cfherrman]

I should add liquid chlorx at this time ?

Oops I thought your post said you had a tf100, not ordered.

I would keep your fc around 10 until your kit arrives. Then do the diluted cya test as described in step 8 in extended test directions.

Only use 6% bleach generic or liquid clorine for the time being untill the pool gets figured out. Use PoolMath to figure additions.

Nice pool, nice work with the trees

 

[Marty D]

MARTY!
Sloooow dooown my man and listen to these folks!

STOP STOP STOP dumping your water until you get your test kit and can provide the results.

I’m guessing the pool store has you in a tizzy for nothing! You must learn POP (pool owner patience)! (as if I have room to talk). Lol!

Seriously, take a deep breath and relax! Even if you fear getting into the water, take a seat next to it, have an adult beverage and enjoy the view a couple days.

The folks here will have you all proper in a short short while and save you a mess of money! [ask me how I know]

With pool this size, I been putting 4 gallons a day in. Still can’t keep up with FC Cc. I added 4 gall yesterday at 2pm then 2 more at 6 pm. This morning FC Cc is still low. Added 4 more galls. I’m at 5 now. Not using taps in this size pool is hard. I can’t be buying 30 gall a week !!!!

 

[cfherrman]

Try 10, the more you keep just keeping track algae at Bay the more bleach you waste.

At 200 cya your slam level is 80! That how much FC you need right now if your cya is 200

 

[getreal720]

You have an 80,000 + gallon body of water, your going to need a lot of chemical to keep that pool going. It's just a big pool for being residential. All you can really do is seek out sources of 12.5% carboys or 55 gallon drums of the stuff.

My pool, which is roughly 13,000 gallons of water, consumes about half a gallon to a gallon of 10% walmart pool chlorinating liquid. You have over 5 times the water I have, and a CYA is is 10 times as high. That means your going to need
a LOT of bleach in that pool to raise the FC count up. It's just the volume. You have a big pool. You need a lot of chlorine.

 

[Marty D]

You have an 80,000 + gallon body of water, your going to need a lot of chemical to keep that pool going. It's just a big pool for being residential. All you can really do is seek out sources of 12.5% carboys or 55 gallon drums of the stuff.

My pool, which is roughly 13,000 gallons of water, consumes about half a gallon to a gallon of 10% walmart pool chlorinating liquid. You have over 5 times the water I have, and a CYA is is 10 times as high. That means your going to need
a LOT of bleach in that pool to raise the FC count up. It's just the volume. You have a big pool. You need a lot of chlorine.

I had 12 gallons under my fish cleaning table and all my kids and family were here and everyone at one time said - Marty, are you making a bomb with all those chlorx? My son said - Dad, hope your not using those for the pool? I don’t even want to explain to them what I’m using them for. So I just say it’s for the fish table when cleaning fish. Getting back to pool. I dump 6,000 today - the rain filled most of it. I used a gallon of liquid shock (no CYA) I’m at 15 and will keep it there. My CYA is 150. Was 400. It’s getting there. I still can put algae 60 in? I normally use 1/2 bottle every month or sooner if it rains.

 

[getreal720]

I have family members as well who just don't understand that putting bleach in the pool is not only safe, but a pretty good way to chlorinate the pool in general. So I feel your pain on that one. I think long term, a good solution to your problem will be a salt water generator.

You say "liquid shock". I hope by that you mean regular bleach? Often times, products have fancy terms on them that are down right shams to get you to spend more money. Just yesterday I was out and needed to pick up some more liquid chlorine. I normally use the walmart pool chlorinating liquid. It's 3.50 or so a gallon but it's 10% vs the 6% bleach in the cleaning section for $2.60 a gallon and using the 10% amounts to less plastic bottles to throw away. Anyway, the walmart I was at didn't have any and I wasn't paying $2.60 for a gallon of 6%. Then I went to the local dollar store and looked at their bleach.

They had "Top Job" bleach in a 3qt bottle for $1 but the reviews were terrible. Supposedly very low % of chlorine. I looked at the unscented regular cleaning bleach and they had "cleaning" bleach for $2.20 a gallon (at 6%) and they had "concentrated" bleach for $2.75 a gallon (at 6%). The chemical makeup and dilution instructions for both bottles was exactly the same. Your getting ripped off 55 cents a gallon because they printed the word "concentrated" on that bottled. So yea, just use regular ole bleach if you didn't.

The algae 60 won't hurt. If you want to dump it in, go ahead.

 

[Household6]

I had 12 gallons under my fish cleaning table and all my kids and family were here and everyone at one time said - Marty, are you making a bomb with all those chlorx? My son said - Dad, hope your not using those for the pool? I don’t even want to explain to them what I’m using them for. So I just say it’s for the fish table when cleaning fish. Getting back to pool. I dump 6,000 today - the rain filled most of it. I used a gallon of liquid shock (no CYA) I’m at 15 and will keep it there. My CYA is 150. Was 400. It’s getting there. I still can put algae 60 in? I normally use 1/2 bottle every month or sooner if it rains.

Lol! My family thought I was crazy too!

We’ve had the house for 8+ years, but have never maintained the pool ourselves as it was a rental property. Moved into the house a few weeks ago and the pool was a POND! No joke - had tadpoles in the water and frogs living in the skimmer baskets.

It took me 2 weeks and around 80 gallons of Walmart bleach at $1.77 ea (as well as various other TFP suggested chems) to get my 36k gallons of water right using the TTP way. (I likely could have paid a PB to do it for less, but I now (sorta) understand the how’s and why’s of it all.)

Maintaining takes no more than 2 gallons per day. That’s $125/m with tax. FAR better than the $200 per month PLUS pool store chems the PB was charging.

My family no longer thinks I’m crazy. In fact, I’ve got “cool points” banked now.

When is your kit scheduled to arrive?

 

[Marty D]

Lol! My family thought I was crazy too!

We’ve had the house for 8+ years, but have never maintained the pool ourselves as it was a rental property. Moved into the house a few weeks ago and the pool was a POND! No joke - had tadpoles in the water and frogs living in the skimmer baskets.

It took me 2 weeks and around 80 gallons of Walmart bleach at $1.77 ea (as well as various other TFP suggested chems) to get my 36k gallons of water right using the TTP way. (I likely could have paid a PB to do it for less, but I now (sorta) understand the how’s and why’s of it all.)

Maintaining takes no more than 2 gallons per day. That’s $125/m with tax. FAR better than the $200 per month PLUS pool store chems the PB was charging.

My family no longer thinks I’m crazy. In fact, I’ve got “cool points” banked now.

When is your kit scheduled to arrive?

They all just left. They were here for 2 weeks on vacation. They come out every weekend as this is there beach house in the Hamptons. I went 1/2 on this house with my son. I stated how much liquid chlorx I was using. I read a post on here because I was trying to find out the percentage of chlorx I was using. It’s from the dollar store. It’s 3 qt per bottle. There are no numbers on gall so I put in the name who makes it. Any way, trouble pool came up and after reading these 3 qt jugs have less then 6 percent maybe 5. I happy because I was putting in 4 a day. Now buying Walmart. Maybe 2 gallons a day should work. All the people that were swimming in the pool day and night, no one had burning eyes. The kids were in for hours. After that I know liquid chlorx was the way to go.

 

[Marty D]

I have family members as well who just don't understand that putting bleach in the pool is not only safe, but a pretty good way to chlorinate the pool in general. So I feel your pain on that one. I think long term, a good solution to your problem will be a salt water generator.

You say "liquid shock". I hope by that you mean regular bleach? Often times, products have fancy terms on them that are down right shams to get you to spend more money. Just yesterday I was out and needed to pick up some more liquid chlorine. I normally use the walmart pool chlorinating liquid. It's 3.50 or so a gallon but it's 10% vs the 6% bleach in the cleaning section for $2.60 a gallon and using the 10% amounts to less plastic bottles to throw away. Anyway, the walmart I was at didn't have any and I wasn't paying $2.60 for a gallon of 6%. Then I went to the local dollar store and looked at their bleach.

They had "Top Job" bleach in a 3qt bottle for $1 but the reviews were terrible. Supposedly very low % of chlorine. I looked at the unscented regular cleaning bleach and they had "cleaning" bleach for $2.20 a gallon (at 6%) and they had "concentrated" bleach for $2.75 a gallon (at 6%). The chemical makeup and dilution instructions for both bottles was exactly the same. Your getting ripped off 55 cents a gallon because they printed the word "concentrated" on that bottled. So yea, just use regular ole bleach if you didn't.

The algae 60 won't hurt. If you want to dump it in, go ahead.

Thanks. You asked what shock. I use this. Ok? Has no CYA Hypochlorite and that’s no CYA ?

 

[jblizzle]

Correct. That is just strong bleach. Adds FC and some salt.

 

[Marty D]

The super shock I had it for a few months. It’s says 10 percent. When I buy Walmart chlorx that also had 10 percent ? At $2.50 a gallon and I paid $5 a gallon-super shock. It’s the same stuff. ???

 

[jblizzle]

Clorox is never 10% that I am aware of.
The only thing that matters is the % strength.

Liquid chlorine is usually 10% or 12.5%
Bleach is 8.25% or mostly 6% now
The dollar store "bleach" can be as low as 3%