- Jun 24, 2021
- 16,379
- Pool Size
- 29000
- Surface
- Vinyl
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- CircuPool RJ-60 Plus
Thank you!select the pump run time and enter a value. Another option is to calculate for pump run time and enter a value for the SWG %
Ah! Thank you! I imagine in the winter I have to use liquid chlorine at least that is what Leslie's shared as they said the salt does nothing in cooler temps (hopefully that is something they shared correctly). Also I read the link you shared about aeration, but if I do not have anything that will help make the small bubbles, what do you recommend- is that the only way to help with the TA?You either chlorinate with your SWG, or chlorinate with LC.
You now know how to calculate SWG % output and pump run time...
Change this (below) to liquid chlorine... and enter the % concentration, and it will calculate amount.
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Somewhere between 50 degrees and 60 degrees, your SWG will stop creating chlorine.Ah! Thank you! I imagine in the winter I have to use liquid chlorine at least that is what Leslie's shared as they said the salt does nothing in cooler temps (hopefully that is something they shared correctly). Also I read the link you shared about aeration, but if I do not have anything that will help make the small bubbles, what do you recommend- is that the only way to help with the TA?
Thank you for confirming!Somewhere between 50 degrees and 60 degrees, your SWG will stop creating chlorine.
Read through this link if you have high TA fill water...
Lowering Total Alkalinity (TA) Quickly with the Acid Aeration Method
Thought I'd make a post that might help others. We've had quite a few members this year with high TA, and I've been typing the same information over and over. I'm going to post this so I can link it to help others. High TA can cause rapid pH rise. High TA is typically caused by high TA fill...www.troublefreepool.com
Pour your whole dose of LC at one time. Pour it in a thin stream in front of a return and brush floor underneath when you are done.One last question- I am assuming I would handle pouring the liquid chlorine in increments similar to muriatic acid, correct ? Also I'm assuming I should do muriatic acid on one day and liquid chlorine on a different day in order to not effect the levels? Thanks again!
That is very helpful- especially about brushing the floor! Thank you again for all of the tips! Much appreciated!Pour your whole dose of LC at one time. Pour it in a thin stream in front of a return and brush floor underneath when you are done.
Wait 10 minutes between muriatic acid and chlorine additions in the same day.
The point behind the increments of .4 for pH adjustment with Muriatic is in the note below in pool math....
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Thank you very much! Just saw this and toke note of the details! Truly appreciate this insight. I sure wish you guys could train the local pool stores!A quick circle back about some secondary things brought up in this thread -
By now, you likely have a sense for the relationship between CYA and CL. Withing limits, CYA helps slow the daily loss by holding CL in reserve - but our tests only track the total CL, hence the higher targets called for as CYA increases, in order to maintain enough active CL.
Leslie's was not totally wrong, as tablets can be used to replace CL when the SWCG is not running. But, the tablets contain stabilizer (CYA) too, so the more you use, the more you need - until the need gets to an unsustainable level. Tablets dissolve - and the rate is very temperature dependent. So it can be really hard to determine any accurate dosing amount. It may take a couple of days in the summer, or a couple of weeks in the winter. Best one can do is test daily and add/subtract the number of tablets and chase the target blindly (I know, as a former 30 yr tablet guy). And test CYA weekly, to make sure it is not building to impossible levels. The only way to reduce CYA is to drain the pool.
Hence the strong preference here for: 1) Add stabilizer separately to get to a target level. Then add no more. And: 2) Use only liquid, since it only adds CL and nothing else. Of course, in warmer weather, no liquid needed normally at all, since you have a SWCG.
The one time the tablets may be useful - when leaving the pool unattended for a longish time. Each of us has our own comfort level about how long we want to leave things operating without any attention. Filters or skimmers could clog. Power outages could happen. Etc. But if you will be gone for 2 weeks, which might be 10 days longer than your comfort level - one can build up the CL using liquid to SLAM level, turn it all off, and then toss a floater or two with tablets in for kind of timed release. There still may be a chance you return to something brewing, or it may be just fine (except for leaves/worms on the bottom!). But you did what you could to forestall problems. So if your tablet supply is small, you may want to hang on to them for this. They don't go bad as long as well protected from moisture.
Just don't use tablets for normal chlorinating, unless you are deliberately trying to build up CYA slowly.
They don't want to be trained. My PERSONAL opinion is that is it one big grift. Free testing and the number of products they sell that is how they make a profit.Thank you very much! Just saw this and toke note of the details! Truly appreciate this insight. I sure wish you guys could train the local pool stores!![]()
That is such a good point! They had me fooled! So glad I found you all!They don't want to be trained. My PERSONAL opinion is that is it one big grift. Free testing and the number of products they sell that is how they make a profit.
If they sold liquid chlorine, CYA, Salt and Calcium, and follow TFP, they would be out of business.
You are not alone…That is such a good point! They had me fooled! So glad I found you all!