rnakawat
Bronze Supporter
My pool is 10' at it's narrowest and bumps out to 12'. It's 30' long with another 7' at the end for the spa. So it's close to your dimensions you were thinking. I have a thread somewhere with more pictures.
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BowserB
Silver Supporter
- Jul 29, 2018
- 785
- Pool Size
- 15000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
FWIW...I wish I had a dollar for everything in my life that I've bought or built and then regretted it. Your yard has great potential for an interesting pool, with that large side yard, but the Pergola will have move (and maybe end up over the spa?) Be sure you know all your easement laws, though. Here, we have 7.5 feet on either side of the property line, or 15 feet if you happen to be at the perimeter of the subdivision.
Integrated spa vs purchased hot tub. The purchased hot tub will almost certainly be functionally superior and easier to heat in winter than an integrated gunite spa. However, but as someone else pointed out, it will not help the appearance of your house or yard. Where a pool and integrated spa may enhance your property and resale value, if you list your home for sale, the hot tub probably won't. Also, as a separate "pool", the time you spend taking care of your main pool water will be no help with your hot tub, which you'll have to separately maintain. My RE agent friend told me that first, a pool is a financial mistake (I knew that), and second, a pool without an integrated spa--at least in the greater Houston area market--is a double mistake (like buying a Mercedes with cloth seats.) I trust my friend, as every single piece of advice he gave on the preparation for sale of our last house was good. He listed it on Wednesday, had an open house on Saturday, and had two contracts on Sunday, including one at asking price. He also told me about a Texas property tax rule that no one else told me, including the local appraisal district or the "expert" property tax protest firm that handled our annual valuations. That tip now saves us $2,000 a year. When my friend talks about residential real estate, I listen.
Back to the pool. Wrapping around the corner into that side yard sounds spectacular. Having to move or remove the pergola just reinforces another suggestion my real estate friend suggested: Anything you do to your back yard--landscaping, hardscaping, swingsets, playhouses, storage buildings, etc.--should be done with a future pool in mind, even if you don't plan one now. You could change your mind, or a prospective buyer might want to be able to add a pool. Just one more opinion that's worth every penny you paid for it!
Good luck.
Integrated spa vs purchased hot tub. The purchased hot tub will almost certainly be functionally superior and easier to heat in winter than an integrated gunite spa. However, but as someone else pointed out, it will not help the appearance of your house or yard. Where a pool and integrated spa may enhance your property and resale value, if you list your home for sale, the hot tub probably won't. Also, as a separate "pool", the time you spend taking care of your main pool water will be no help with your hot tub, which you'll have to separately maintain. My RE agent friend told me that first, a pool is a financial mistake (I knew that), and second, a pool without an integrated spa--at least in the greater Houston area market--is a double mistake (like buying a Mercedes with cloth seats.) I trust my friend, as every single piece of advice he gave on the preparation for sale of our last house was good. He listed it on Wednesday, had an open house on Saturday, and had two contracts on Sunday, including one at asking price. He also told me about a Texas property tax rule that no one else told me, including the local appraisal district or the "expert" property tax protest firm that handled our annual valuations. That tip now saves us $2,000 a year. When my friend talks about residential real estate, I listen.
Back to the pool. Wrapping around the corner into that side yard sounds spectacular. Having to move or remove the pergola just reinforces another suggestion my real estate friend suggested: Anything you do to your back yard--landscaping, hardscaping, swingsets, playhouses, storage buildings, etc.--should be done with a future pool in mind, even if you don't plan one now. You could change your mind, or a prospective buyer might want to be able to add a pool. Just one more opinion that's worth every penny you paid for it!
Good luck.
RoyR
Bronze Supporter
Need to get a plot plan first, and find out what your setback requirements are....looks to me like the pool should be on the car port side, sun and space. Pergola could stay where it is...waterfall in the far corner, spa and sun shelf near the pergola patio.
Pool builder said it was 5 ft set back from the property line. I don’t think I can move the car port (have a car I don’t want to be sitting in the sun all the time), although your right, that would be the best place for a pool from the suns perspective. First guy didn’t suggest moving the pergola (I mentioned it). I’ll talk to the guy on Tuesday about it. I’m sure that will increase the cost a good bit, and it’s already going to cost more than I was originally planning.
Met with another guy today, and have one more tomorrow. He also didn't recommend moving the pergola (would add too much cost). He sent me a drawing, wanted to see what y'all thought about it.
Not sure if I want to do the splash pad or just have stairs go all the way across. It would only be 5x3.5 and 4ft wide stairs. The kids would probably like it now, but when they get older doubt it would get much use (may be too small). Other than that, I think it looks pretty good, but figured I could get some good suggestions from the experts here. Thanks!
Not sure if I want to do the splash pad or just have stairs go all the way across. It would only be 5x3.5 and 4ft wide stairs. The kids would probably like it now, but when they get older doubt it would get much use (may be too small). Other than that, I think it looks pretty good, but figured I could get some good suggestions from the experts here. Thanks!
First things first.............YOU need to check on the easements. Yeah that other one said what they said but they will not be the ones hit with the fines or such if they are wrong.
This new drawing is okay. I would NOT want a raised spa there as it will block your view of the grass area on the other side of it if you are in the pool.
Please hold a tape measure up to see where 5' hits the adults in the house. On me it would not be comfortable for me to stand in as it would hit me right around my mouth/chin area. 5' is not deep enough to do cannon balls and such without hitting the bottom. I would think about doing 4'5" all over to make for some good play area.
Look up Watermelon Ball! It is very fun pool game and ball!
Kim
This new drawing is okay. I would NOT want a raised spa there as it will block your view of the grass area on the other side of it if you are in the pool.
Please hold a tape measure up to see where 5' hits the adults in the house. On me it would not be comfortable for me to stand in as it would hit me right around my mouth/chin area. 5' is not deep enough to do cannon balls and such without hitting the bottom. I would think about doing 4'5" all over to make for some good play area.
Look up Watermelon Ball! It is very fun pool game and ball!
Kim
- Oct 25, 2017
- 604
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- 9700
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- Jandy Truclear / Ei
This will sound stupid, so bear with me. Im only on my first cup of coffee. Everything Ive read says that you never get your money back when you build a pool (like any of us care about that). Have you considered selling your house and buying one with a pool? That way you wouldnt have to pay retail for a pool, and might get a better pool for less than it cost to build.
I didn’t think about not being able to see the side yard with a raised hot tub. I like the idea of the waterfall from hot tub to pool, and feel like a raised hot tub may even out the yard a little since the pergola is on the other side. Both pool guys said it was 5 feet, and I measured as well. That’s why we decided 9ft wide instead of 10ft, due to pool being too close to the stairs. I need to try and get the energy company to come out and make sure that is going to be far enough away from the power lines, or a pool won’t be possible. PB said I need to get property survey to have when the energy company comes, so that’s what I’m working on now.
I think selling an buying a new house would prob be more expensive and am sure the wife would rather not have a pool than do that. Took us a long time to find this house (multiple failed inspections on other houses).
I think selling an buying a new house would prob be more expensive and am sure the wife would rather not have a pool than do that. Took us a long time to find this house (multiple failed inspections on other houses).
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- Jul 21, 2013
- 65,707
- Pool Size
- 35000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
Lots of wrinkles with those overhead power lines. Even the FHA gets involved. It may be a showstopper.
The Location of Overhead Power Lines
The rules for overhead power lines are specific--where they pass by or through the property can be a problem depending on the location of those lines. “The Mortgagee must confirm that any Overhead Electric Power Transmission Lines do not pass directly over any dwelling, Structure or related property improvement, including pools. The power line must be relocated for a Property to be eligible for FHA-insured financing.”
The Location of Overhead Power Lines
The rules for overhead power lines are specific--where they pass by or through the property can be a problem depending on the location of those lines. “The Mortgagee must confirm that any Overhead Electric Power Transmission Lines do not pass directly over any dwelling, Structure or related property improvement, including pools. The power line must be relocated for a Property to be eligible for FHA-insured financing.”
The power line is on the property line so it won’t be over the pool, but it is supposed to be 22.5 ft from the pool, and is probably 15-18 ft high (just me guessing) so we will be cutting it close. If it’s 18 + 5 = 23 so should be ok.... hopefully it is at least that high.
- Jul 21, 2013
- 65,707
- Pool Size
- 35000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
Note the 22.5 foot electrical line clearance is above the "maximum water level". If you dig down and put an overflow drain at the right level you may be able to squeak by.
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Pools and Spas — Part 1 of 3
If Art. 680 of the National Electrical Code (NEC) has one overriding concern, it's to keep people and water separated from electricity. Article 680 applies to pools, spas, hot...
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