How do I wire this stuff?

ajw22

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Would it be okay to wire it 115v, and use the intermatic T101, and then follow your directions? Is it ok to wire 2 devices (pump and SWG power center) to the load terminals?
I will tell you that is not to current National Electric Code (NEC). However many folks have it wireed that way and it works.

You can put two wires on the load terminals ok. Alternatively you wire nut the two or more wires together with a short pigtail wire that you connect to the load terminal.
 
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cts2112

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I will tell you that is not to current National Electric Code (NEC). However many folks have it wireed that way and it works.

You can put two wires on the load terminals ok. Alternatively you wire nut the two or more wires together with a short pigtail wire that you connect to the load terminal.
Yes, AJW - that makes sense. Thank you so much.

I also read that part in the manual, that's why I'm wondering why the heck my pool contractor replied with a "no" in my email!!
 

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I will tell you that is not to current National Electric Code (NEC). However many folks have it wireed that way and it works.

You can put two wires on the load terminals ok. Alternatively you wire nut the two or more wires together with a short pigtail wire that you connect to the load terminal.
I never understood this. The terminals look to be designed to take 2 wires. Is the wire-nut the "code-compliant" method?
 

cts2112

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Page 3 of the manual - https://www.pentair.com/content/dam/extranet/product-related/product-manuals/pool-and-spa-equipment/ichlor/iChlorSaltGenSanitizer.pdf - contains a few warnings that say:

WARNING: CHLORINE GAS BUILDUP CAN OCCUR WITH IMPROPER WIRING: To reduce the risk of personal injury the iChlor SCG Power Center must be installed on an automation filter pump relay and wired to the load side of the time clock, electronically controlled switch, or relay load side, so that it will receive power only when the pool pump is on. Otherwise, dangerous chlorine gas buildup can occur. The iChlor SCG should never be energized when the pool pump is OFF and water is not flowing through the unit.



On a 20A breaker all the wiring must be 12 Gauge.
RIght, ok - so I should then be good with the Intermatic T101 since I'm using 115v, correct?! Thanks again
 

ajw22

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I never understood this. The terminals look to be designed to take 2 wires. Is the wire-nut the "code-compliant" method?
The pig tail method is more professional. Two wires can usually fit under a screw if you are careful in routing the wires and tightning the screw. Three wires starts being a problem.
 

cts2112

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Yes. You understand with 115V wiring you only switch the hot line through the T101 and you wire nut the neutral lines together?
Yes, that makes sense. I will wire everything up before I even hook it up to the main panel circuit breaker. I'll try and get good pictures and post it when I do. Wish me luck - give me a few days to get this done. And thanks again for sharing your knowledge, I can see that I have a lot to learn.
 

cts2112

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Ok, before I begin:

This is a sketch of what how I plan to wire it. Tell me if this is right or wrong. Again, I will not hook up anything to power until the wiring is correct! Thanks...

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ajw22

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Ok, before I begin:

This is a sketch of what how I plan to wire it. Tell me if this is right or wrong. Again, I will not hook up anything to power until the wiring is correct! Thanks...

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Neutral has to be connected to A on the T101 to power it.

Wire nut the neutral from the breaker to the neutrals to the pump and SWG and a pigtail. Connect the pigtail to A on the T101.

Do the same for the grounds and connect the pigtail to the ground screw on the T101.
 

cts2112

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You using a 20A GFCI breaker? What is the GFI box?
I actually just have a regular 20A breaker. Was going to put in a GFCI receptacle before the timer to protect. Should I try and get a different 20A breaker instead? I didn't see any at Home Depot but I didn't look real hard either. Siemans panel.
 

cts2112

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Left side is power from breaker. Right side to pump and SWG.

Neutral pigtail on 'A' - wire nut to Incoming neutral (white) and outgoing neutral (white) X 2 - pump and SWG.

Ground pigtail on 'G' - wire nut to Incoming ground (bare) and outgoing ground (bare) X 2 - pump and SWG.

Hot incoming to terminal '1'. Terminal 2 outgoing has hot (black) X 2 - pump and SWG.

just in case the pictures are hard to see...
 

ajw22

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That 12/3 wire is not to code for outdoor wiring. If you want to be to NEC wires have to be THWN wires in conduit outdoors.

Wiring looks correct. Wire used is the issue.
 

cts2112

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Is the timer not going to be placed outside on a wall by the pump?

Note that ground wire has to be insulated #12 green wires.
The ground wire all the way from the Circuit breaker or just once outside to be green insulated?

And no, the timer is inside and the SWG generator is outside.