Help me hook up my Edge40, please.

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Lineman7

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Pool Size
14750
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
CircuPool Edge-40
What is the correct hookup for my SWG? It can wire up 120 or 240. Here is my Jandy 2.7

I saw another thread from2017 on here and thought I knew how to do it. The I come home and realize my motor was a little more detailed.
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Your pump is wired 220 always on.. You want to connect your SWG to a timer so it can turn on and off when you want.. If you connect it to the pump it will be on 24/7...

It looks like you have a pressure side pump with a timer?? You would basically need the same exact setup for the SWG.. :)
 
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L7,

Your Jandy pump has a set up that most others wish they had. :mrgreen:

Your pump has two Aux relay outputs.. One turns on at 1725 RPM and the other at 2250.

You can wire your salt system to either of those two outputs. I would try the lower RPM first and see if that is enough to turn on your salt system.

You can wire the Aux relays with an external 120 or 240 volt input to the Line side of the relay. Then the Load side of the relay would be the hot power line to your salt system.

Please let me know if this does not make sense to you.

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
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Jimrahbe said:
L7,

Your Jandy pump has a set up that most others wish they had. :mrgreen:

Your pump has two Aux relay outputs.. One turns on at 1725 RPM and the other at 2250.

You can wire your salt system to either of those two outputs. I would try the lower RPM first and see if that is enough to turn on your salt system.

You can wire the Aux relays with an external 120 or 240 volt input to the Line side of the relay. Then the Load side of the relay would be the hot power line to your salt system.

Please let me know if this does not make sense to you.

Thanks,

Jim R.
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Why would the salt system need 240? What's the advantage of wiring it 240 as apposed to 120?

Is my diagram correct? I'm assuming the LOAD side becomes energized at 1725rpm?

In my diagram, do I need a jumper wire going to LINE2 as well, If I wire it 240?

Thank you for your time.
 

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L7,

I take it "Lineman" has more to do with football than being an electrician working on the power lines. :mrgreen:

Assuming the circuit breaker for your pump is a GFCI breaker, like it should be, wiring the way you did will immediately pop the breaker... 🙁

There is no real difference in running the SWCG off of 120 volts or 240 volts. It is just two ways to do the same thing. You can use whichever you like.

I think it best if you tell me about your SWCG. How does your SWCG get wired to power? Does it have a cord with a plug on the end, or does it have a cord with just bare wires, or no cord at all?

Show me a pic of your circuit breaker panel. Do you plan to add a circuit breaker for the SWCG?

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
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The Circupool Edge, From the manual > The Control Module uses a switch-mode power supply designed to automatically accept either 120VAC or 220VAC.. So I would wire it 240v from the lower rpm aux 1 side, it sucks that it will only work at 1725 rpm as I run mine as low as 900 rpm.. They do not have plugs on them just bare wires.. :)

 
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Jimrahbe said:
L7,

I take it "Lineman" has more to do with football than being an electrician working on the power lines. :mrgreen:

Assuming the circuit breaker for your pump is a GFCI breaker, like it should be, wiring the way you did will immediately pop the breaker... 🙁

There is no real difference in running the SWCG off of 120 volts or 240 volts. It is just two ways to do the same thing. You can use whichever you like.

I think it best if you tell me about your SWCG. How does your SWCG get wired to power? Does it have a cord with a plug on the end, or does it have a cord with just bare wires, or no cord at all?

Show me a pic of your circuit breaker panel. Do you plan to add a circuit breaker for the SWCG?

Thanks,

Jim R.
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I can work 14.4kv all day. House wiring and pumps, that's a different story. I don't feed my family with house and pump wiring:) I thoroughly understand the theory though.

Yes sir, my pump is GFCI protected. SWG has 3 bare wires. BLK, WHT and GRN.

I was going to power the SWG with the pump, so it runs while the pump runs. Is this a viable option?

I'll break out my Fluke and see what's what.
 
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I guess what I'm trying to say, I don't understand the relationship between the AUX and the pump. I'll see what the voltmeter tells me.

Thank you all!
 
It looks like there are only 8 power levels, not sure why they did not go with 10 power levels of 10% each..

Directly connect SWG to pump power will run the SWG 24/7.. The problem with that is you will have to run the pump 24/7 also.. You never want the SWG to only use the flow switch as on off and on switch as they tend to fail.. You can run 24/7 but you do not have many levels of change on the SWG.. You would start running it on led 5 and see where that lands you in FC.. Then after a week see where you are at.. FC at 10 = lower to level 4... FC at 5 raise to level 6..
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The best way is to use your Aux 1 and connect line 1 to line 1 aux, line 2 to line 2 aux and then connect the load to the SWG.. Then anytime you want the SWG on just tell your pump to go to 1750 rpm for however long you want the SWG on.. Using it this way you want your SWG at 100% and adjust the time the pump runs..

Remember always raise the FC level in a saltwater pool by using liquid chlorine, take your FC using poolmath to FC of 7 tonight, then tomorrow start your 12 hour run, test tomorrow night.. are you at FC of 7? leave it if you are.. Are you at fc of 5 run longer, fc at 10 run less :)

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cowboycasey said:
It looks like there are only 8 power levels, not sure why they did not go with 10 power levels of 10% each..

Directly connect SWG to pump power will run the SWG 24/7.. The problem with that is you will have to run the pump 24/7 also.. You never want the SWG to only use the flow switch as on off and on switch as they tend to fail.. You can run 24/7 but you do not have many levels of change on the SWG.. You would start running it on led 5 and see where that lands you in FC.. Then after a week see where you are at.. FC at 10 = lower to level 4... FC at 5 raise to level 6..
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The best way is to use your Aux 1 and connect line 1 to line 1 aux, line 2 to line 2 aux and then connect the load to the SWG.. Then anytime you want the SWG on just tell your pump to go to 1750 rpm for however long you want the SWG on.. Using it this way you want your SWG at 100% and adjust the time the pump runs..

Remember always raise the FC level in a saltwater pool by using liquid chlorine, take your FC using poolmath to FC of 7 tonight, then tomorrow start your 12 hour run, test tomorrow night.. are you at FC of 7? leave it if you are.. Are you at fc of 5 run longer, fc at 10 run less :)

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You are awesome. That diagram makes perfect sense.

I'm off to hack up pvc!
 
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Hooked up my Edge 40 2 weeks ago. Just used a separate timer. I run my pump 10 hours (2 hours high, 8 hours low) and my SWG 8 hours (during low cycle). I have it set at 25% (2 LEDs) and keeps up fine. I'd get way too much chlorine if I had to run the pump 24/7. My pool is same size as yours.
 
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tcat said:
Hooked up my Edge 40 2 weeks ago. Just used a separate timer. I run my pump 10 hours (2 hours high, 8 hours low) and my SWG 8 hours (during low cycle). I have it set at 25% (2 LEDs) and keeps up fine. I'd get way too much chlorine if I had to run the pump 24/7. My pool is same size as yours.
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What do you keep your salt levels at? Last year I kept around 2800 and it did OK but this year decided to jump top 3800 and keep having to turn it down.
 
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I just installed my Universal40. I keep mine set at 10% and run my VS pump 24/7 with a 1 hour run at high speed to skim the top. Consistently, the FC stays around 5, with a CYA of 50-60. I'll probably turn it up a little when it gets warmer out, but seems to be working great for now. Also salty is at 3400 by drop test, but the controller reads 6000, no idea why, but its working great so I'm just going to roll with it.
 
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