Glacier Chiller Install and Automation

TXpoolDIYguy

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Jul 18, 2023
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Houston, TX
Pool Size
10000
Surface
Plaster
Houston resident here, pool has been in mid 90s this summer after we refinished from white plaster to blue pebble sheen. Decided a chiller was necessary to enjoy swimming, but didn't want the high install/operating costs of a heat pump. One of my neighbors put the Glacier in and was super happy with it, so I decided to pull the trigger. Here's a brief overview of my DIY install with some notes, and I have a few questions at the end for the TFP community.

Apart from the sump pump pipe detaching from the bulkhead fitting during shipping (simple re-cement fix), install was a breeze. Jandy diverter valve + actuator (added after I took the pics) just past the filter, to the recommended 2" ball valve to control flow to the spray wands in the chiller. For the return, we had an existing 1-1/2" dedicated return line for an old pressure side cleaner that we no longer used, so I tied into that. Because it goes direct into the pool, no additional ball valve or diverter valve was necessary (not going back into the suction side of the pump). I also used unions at the chiller connections to make maintenance easier.

GPC-25 chiller was $2400 out the door, I probably spent another $500 for the pipe, fittings, pad, diverter valve, actuator, wire, conduit, etc. So just shy of $3k all in.

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A few notes on things I did that differed from the "official guidance" of the manual:
  • In the Glacier manual it says to NOT use a wall return, but that really did not make much sense to me from a thermodynamic point of view. The main goal should be to evenly distribute the cold water, right? I have the nozzle pointed to the middle of the pool.
  • The return line is 1-1/2" not 2", but the sump pump is small enough that the difference in FOH is not relevant IMO.
  • In the manual is says to use a 1" ball valve for the drain, but the thread is 3/4" so I just did a 3/4" valve. It doesn't take that long to drain.
  • They recommend running the VS at "high speed" during operation, but obviously I want to minimize power usage when running at night. I found that my VS pump at 1200 could produce just enough pressure to "walk" the spray wands in the chiller, so I set that as the default chiller VS setting and fine tuned with the ball valve.
Wiring was very easy. I decided to bypass the manual toggle switch on the chiller completely, opting instead to only automate. Had an unused aux relay and unused actuator connection (for solar) that I tied to that aux. So when the chiller aux is activated, the Jandy valve opens allowing 100% flow to both the pool return and the chiller, and the chiller fan starts. I wired the sump pump direct to 120V since it has a float switch to auto turn on/off.

QUESTIONS FOR TFP:
  • Does your chiller still work if running when ambient > water temp (ie evaporative cooling), or is it a simple heat exchanger?
  • The manual mentioned nothing about bonding, but I always like to err on the side of caution when it comes to wiring safety. Neither the sump pump or the fan motor had bond wire lugs, so I decided to bond using the fan mounting cage (bonded to fan motor case, which is also bonded to the sump via connected grounds). Theoretically it makes sense to me but want to ask for your thoughts.
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  • The Glacier manual says that it can be fully automated using the solar VA, relay, and temp sensor settings (set to heat pump with chiller mode?). The sump would have to be wired direct (as I have it), so that basically the fan just turns off and on when you want to stop cooling. But I thought that with a solar setup the VA would also switch once the set point is reached to stop diverting water to the solar heater?
    • First of all, can my old Aqualink PDA do a chiller mode? (See firmware below)
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    • If so, what is the logic for control? Basically I just want the system to stop cooling when the set point is reached, either by only deactivating the fan, or switching the VA to stop flow to the chiller too.
Thanks!
 
The glacier cooler does not need to be bonded. The fan motor and electrical does not come in contact with pool water.

I doubt that your Aqualink PDA can control a chiller. But look in the SETTINGS and see if it has any device with a chiller setting.
 
The glacier cooler does not need to be bonded. The fan motor and electrical does not come in contact with pool water.

I doubt that your Aqualink PDA can control a chiller. But look in the SETTINGS and see if it has any device with a chiller setting.
I'm not really worried about the fan, but the sump pump in the collection basin at the bottom is in contact with pool water. There was no bonding lug on the sump motor housing, so that's why I used the fan cage (fan cage grounded to fan motor housing, fan motor housing shares ground with sump pump ground), effectively completing the bonding chain in a roundabout way. Probably overkill though.

The instructions say to use solar heat in chiller mode for temp automation. So I ordered a temp sensor to use in the solar slot (so that the solar feature will activate in the PDA) and we'll see what pops up.

Worst case I just run it when it's hot and don't when it's not. Water won't be perfectly 85 every morning, but if it swings in the 83 to 87 range I won't be mad. First world problems.
 
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