Current pb design

Poolmichael

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Any thoughts? It's way bigger than the rectangle we started with.
 

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HermanTX

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Welcome to TFP. I like the geometric design and you can swim diagonaL.
What is the estimate on volume? Also, suggest you have min. 3.5ft depth by the steps.
 

Poolmichael

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Jul 20, 2021
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Houston
Welcome to TFP. I like the geometric design and you can swim diagonaL.
What is the estimate on volume? Also, suggest you have min. 3.5ft depth by the steps.
Thank you,
I don't have all the specs with me right now, but I do know that it's roughly 34' long by 17' at the narrow curves. I don't remember the measurement at widest point. And just under 16000 gal.
It's 3.5 at the steps and 7' at the deepest point.
 
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Poolmichael

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Im not great at posting things but here it goes. This I believe is my current build list.

Electrical: All electrical lines ran in SCD 80 Grey PVC bonded per code
Plumbing:
2 1/2 inch SCD 40 suction FOR Spa, Pool and Skimmers plumbing with long sweeps and 45 degree bends! – Includes VERSA PLUMB ENGINEERING! Dedicated Plumbing Lines
Rebar: #3 rebar 6'' - 8'' on center -
4 BAR BOX BEAM to maximize strength.
Gunite: Gunite is shot from ground up to ensure proper application. Gunite beam are 12'' Thick and Walls are 8”-10” Thick.
Warranty's:
Deck / Tile / Coping: 2 Year deck, tile and coping warranty.
Plaster: 15 Year warranty on upgraded pebble plaster! (PEBBLE TEC/WETEDGE)
Equipment: 3 Year bumper to bumper equipment warranty!
Gunite Shell: Life time warranty on the shell of the pool.
GUNITE Shell Warranty Transferable.
Pool Specs:
• Pool Length x Width: 14’ x 36’ (this has changed in current design)
• Pool Perimeter:100’ Perimeter POOL 3’ to 7’ Deep
• Pool Sq Ft: 468’ Sq Ft Pool
• Plaster Options: Premier Pebble
• Fill Line: Paramount Self Level Auto Fill
• Drain: ECLIPSE MAIN DRAIN - RESORT STYLE DRAIN
Skimmer: Paraskim Skimmers
• 6 Returns
• Standard Steps
• 8’ Seating Bench
• 4- Deck Jets
Decking:
• Deck Type: - 560’ – Sundek (changed in current design)
• Top Existing Patio with Sundek – 175’
• Area Drains – 170’ with 6 Heads run to street

Equipment:
• Pool Pump: 2HP VS JANDY Pump w/ Freeze Protection
• Cartridge Filter: 460’ JANDY Cartridge Filter
• 3 LED Lights
• Time Clock
• Nature 2 Chlorine System
• Electric Runs Included – 200’
• Auto Fill Line
• Overflow Line

Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated. Thank you.
 

joepaiii

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Salt Water Generator
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Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
Why not have the equipment on the backside of the little building so not visible from the house? Also maybe more seating bench areas in the shallow are, gives people places to sit and talk in the water. Check out jandy's lighting guide https://www.jandy.com/-/media/zodiac/global/downloads/sl/sl4572.pdf for light locations/ideas. Looks nice so far.
 

HermanTX

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So it appears there are 2 skimmers and they will run those as independent lines back to the equipment pad along with a main drain and all 2.5” PVC which is all great for suction. They also will use long sweep ells and 45 deg fixtures to make bends. Again great.
They will most likely put a valve on each skimmer line to control suction from each. Suggest you request Jandy never lube 2 way valve for those as it will be easier to maintain in future. They will most likely put another Jandy never lube 3 way valve between the suction line for the main drain and the 2 suction lines for the skimmers.

I notice 4 deck jets. These can be nice but some really like them and others do not after a while. Just be sure you want them because they do have a significant upfront cost. You may want to discuss if each will have its own shut off valve in the event something goes awry with 1 of them you still want the others to operate.

The 1 VS pump should be good for your pool with no spa and only the deck jets as water feature. Also good with the large cartridge filter.
The nature 2 chlorine system should be exchanged for a salt water chlorine generator (SWCG) as that will perform better and also keep your pool better sanitized. You will get some push back from the PB because he will suggest a salt water pool will cause problems. There are lots of discussions on the forum regarding use of SWCG and its advantages over products such as the Nature 2 system.

It is noted that only a Timer is included. This is real basic and will not provide you any control to turn on or off the pump, the deck jets or the lights via remote capability. While the timer will allow you to program on/off times for your VS pump you will manually need to turn the valve for your deck jets and a switch for your lights. You need to consider a base automation system such as the Jandy iAquaLink RS 4 system. This would be wireless to your phone app or to a computer. You will be able to set multiple program times and have remote control of your lights and deck jets.

Hope this helps. I am sure others will jump in.
 

Poolmichael

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Jul 20, 2021
22
Houston
So it appears there are 2 skimmers and they will run those as independent lines back to the equipment pad along with a main drain and all 2.5” PVC which is all great for suction. They also will use long sweep ells and 45 deg fixtures to make bends. Again great.
They will most likely put a valve on each skimmer line to control suction from each. Suggest you request Jandy never lube 2 way valve for those as it will be easier to maintain in future. They will most likely put another Jandy never lube 3 way valve between the suction line for the main drain and the 2 suction lines for the skimmers.

I notice 4 deck jets. These can be nice but some really like them and others do not after a while. Just be sure you want them because they do have a significant upfront cost. You may want to discuss if each will have its own shut off valve in the event something goes awry with 1 of them you still want the others to operate.

The 1 VS pump should be good for your pool with no spa and only the deck jets as water feature. Also good with the large cartridge filter.
The nature 2 chlorine system should be exchanged for a salt water chlorine generator (SWCG) as that will perform better and also keep your pool better sanitized. You will get some push back from the PB because he will suggest a salt water pool will cause problems. There are lots of discussions on the forum regarding use of SWCG and its advantages over products such as the Nature 2 system.

It is noted that only a Timer is included. This is real basic and will not provide you any control to turn on or off the pump, the deck jets or the lights via remote capability. While the timer will allow you to program on/off times for your VS pump you will manually need to turn the valve for your deck jets and a switch for your lights. You need to consider a base automation system such as the Jandy iAquaLink RS 4 system. This would be wireless to your phone app or to a computer. You will be able to set multiple program times and have remote control of your lights and deck jets.

Hope this helps. I am sure others will jump in.
Thank you for taking a look. The lack of automation is intentional in an effort to reign in the ballooning budget. We are getting a great pool with very basic equipment for the time being. With the electrical panel upgrade, pool shed, gutters, pool furniture, robot vacuum the bleeding has to stop somewhere. I would love to go saltwater, but we are over budget. As far as automation, with no spa and no heater I'm not seeing the need. I will never turn on the deck jets unless we are using the pool, and the same with the lights. The only reason I could imagine needing automation is to monitor the system to make sure there are no problems. Am I looking at this incorrectly?
 

HermanTX

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Thank you for taking a look. The lack of automation is intentional in an effort to reign in the ballooning budget. We are getting a great pool with very basic equipment for the time being. With the electrical panel upgrade, pool shed, gutters, pool furniture, robot vacuum the bleeding has to stop somewhere. I would love to go saltwater, but we are over budget. As far as automation, with no spa and no heater I'm not seeing the need. I will never turn on the deck jets unless we are using the pool, and the same with the lights. The only reason I could imagine needing automation is to monitor the system to make sure there are no problems. Am I looking at this incorrectly?
Fully understand the budget aspect. I was just pointing out some items that may not help you over the longer term (nature 2) or provides you some convenience (automation).
 

Poolmichael

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Jul 20, 2021
22
Houston
Fully understand the budget aspect. I was just pointing out some items that may not help you over the longer term (nature 2) or provides you some convenience (automation).
Yeah, I cringe every time i see the nature 2. My wife is sold on this "let's just do this for now and make sure the pb leaves room for improvement down the road" plan, I am not. I can invision shrinking the pool size a little to make up for the extra cost of going swg.
Am I correct in thinking that it's fairly easy to go from traditional chlorine system to a saltwater system, but the opposite is more difficult?