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The PoolMath app has a section for calculating how much of what to add, to hit a given target. Just to give you a wild guess on running costs AFTER you defeat the Baqua completely. All disclaimers apply to the following.

A guess is that you may want to maintain 6 ppm concentration of chlorine. 3-5 may burn off depending on sun/temperature each day. So you'd need to add 1/2 gal per day. For 150 day season, that would be $450 for the year. Lots of variables here. That is likely a pretty high guess, and actual will come in lower (less Cl in colder weather, maybe you can run at a lower ppm, etc).
A gallon or two of muriatic acid for the year. Maybe a partial bag of baking soda at the start. Maybe some CYA at the start. Call it another $50-$75. Or maybe not, depending on what carries over in the pool, over the winter.
The downside is needing to add some liquid each day, generally. Provisions can be made for being away for trips, etc. But if you miss a few days while at home, the liquid needed can go a lot higher to defeat the algae that appeared.

Your next years project to plan for to get to your dream - get a Salt Water Chlorine Generator. If you can DIY PVC pipe, that part is easy. Guestimate about $1200-$1500 for one. If you need an electrician - that could be up to a 50% increase. Pool guys will likely charge double the equipment cost to put it in. The initial salt will be $85-90, or less. Future years, maybe $7-30 depending on how low you lower your pool for the winter, rain dilution, etc. A case of liquid, just in case. The secondary chems noted above. The generator lasts at least 5 years, and many, many for 10 or even more. So the average yearly cost comes down pretty far - and no lugging jugs daily. Everyone loves the feel of the water. And the salt level is 1/10th the ocean - many can't even taste it (I can, but no one else that has been in my pool ever has when asked).

The ultimate to be "crunchy" is a variable speed motor on your pump with the salt water generator. Savings and energy use can be extremely dramatic - but that is a seperate project for a later time.

In any event, following the advice here will get you to the equivalent $ point of around two trips to the pool store for the year, or less. (Needs to defeat the Baqua not included, of course).
 
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The PoolMath app has a section for calculating how much of what to add, to hit a given target. Just to give you a wild guess on running costs AFTER you defeat the Baqua completely. All disclaimers apply to the following.

A guess is that you may want to maintain 6 ppm concentration of chlorine. 3-5 may burn off depending on sun/temperature each day. So you'd need to add 1/2 gal per day. For 150 day season, that would be $450 for the year. Lots of variables here. That is likely a pretty high guess, and actual will come in lower (less Cl in colder weather, maybe you can run at a lower ppm, etc).
A gallon or two of muriatic acid for the year. Maybe a partial bag of baking soda at the start. Maybe some CYA at the start. Call it another $50-$75. Or maybe not, depending on what carries over in the pool, over the winter.
The downside is needing to add some liquid each day, generally. Provisions can be made for being away for trips, etc. But if you miss a few days while at home, the liquid needed can go a lot higher to defeat the algae that appeared.

Your next years project to plan for to get to your dream - get a Salt Water Chlorine Generator. If you can DIY PVC pipe, that part is easy. Guestimate about $1200-$1500 for one. If you need an electrician - that could be up to a 50% increase. Pool guys will likely charge double the equipment cost to put it in. The initial salt will be $85-90, or less. Future years, maybe $7-30 depending on how low you lower your pool for the winter, rain dilution, etc. A case of liquid, just in case. The secondary chems noted above. The generator lasts at least 5 years, and many, many for 10 or even more. So the average yearly cost comes down pretty far - and no lugging jugs daily. Everyone loves the feel of the water. And the salt level is 1/10th the ocean - many can't even taste it (I can, but no one else that has been in my pool ever has when asked).

The ultimate to be "crunchy" is a variable speed motor on your pump with the salt water generator. Savings and energy use can be extremely dramatic - but that is a seperate project for a later time.

In any event, following the advice here will get you to the equivalent $ point of around two trips to the pool store for the year, or less. (Needs to defeat the Baqua not included, of course).
I already wanted a variable speed pump. I know nothing about swcg, maybe I should learn.
 
I know nothing about swcg, maybe I should learn.
If I couldn't do both and was given the choice, I'd get a 60K unit this year that you would only have to run for a few hours being so large.

Then I'd get the VS pump next year or whenevs. That's all you need to know. The 2 really go hand in hand for easy poolcare and savings, but the VS pump by itself is only a savings without making things particularly easier.
 
If I couldn't do both and was given the choice, I'd get a 60K unit this year that you would only have to run for a few hours being so large.

Then I'd get the VS pump next year or whenevs. That's all you need to know. The 2 really go hand in hand for easy poolcare and savings, but the VS pump by itself is only a savings without making things particularly easier.
For your size pool, of course. One nominally for 60K gallons on a 12K pool might be a struggle to dial down low enough....but it might last for decades!
(To the original poster - usual advice is to buy one that will handle about twice your pool volume. Gives extra "oomph" if you need it, and running it at a lower setting greatly extends its life.)
But we digress while you wait for your test kit. Start a new thread about wanting to learn more, if you do. We'll try to stay on course with your current situation here.
 
For your size pool, of course. One nominally for 60K gallons on a 12K pool might be a struggle to dial down low enough
I was thinking of needing much less runtime with the single speed pump. A 2x would need 12 hours and be costly. :)

The energy savings the first season would likely pay for the SWG upgrade over the traditional 2X recommendation. Then the VS pump could be purchased whenever in made up scenario and pay for itself once installed.

Then then. The 5X cell would more or less last forever. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Ive been trying to log it accurately, and the pool math log should be shared.
~1315 added 2 gallons of 10%
~1515 first FC test completed .5ppm; 2 gallons of 10% added
~1630 second FC test completed 1ppm, about 1.8 gallons added

The only thing that didn't occur to me previously was, how much faith should I put in the pool math additions or do I need to test every post addition to make sure I am hitting 15ppm?
 

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Sand filter pressure spiked after last addition.
Backwashed, re-sampled and was back to 1.5 ppm
did not add any water back as I don't want to dilute (could rain overnight anyway).
2 more gallons 10% chlorine added
Backwash was gross, and had brown foam.
Skimmer baskets have a film developing in the back of the skimmer but floating, net is ready if we get any floating goop.
 
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Sand filter pressure spiked after last addition.
Backwashed, re-sampled and was back to 1.5 ppm
did not add any water back as I don't want to dilute (could rain overnight anyway).
2 more gallons 10% chlorine added
Backwash was gross, and had brown foam.
Skimmer baskets have a film developing in the back of the skimmer but floating, net is ready if we get any floating goop.
Youve got it going!
 
FC was 6.5 added 136oz of 10% chlorine ~1830.
Filter pressure @ 18psi
directly after a backwash its usually 16.
I know I am posting A LOT, but I want to record the whole thing for two reasons.
primarily, when something goes wrong the knowledgable folks will have all the info.
Secondarily, the next poor guy to come along might get something out of it.
 
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Thank god I live out where no one is going to question the smell. We're in the Chloramine production business now friends. I was going to make the joke since everyone asks "can we swim yet" but there's a lot of chlorine smell off gassing, and with humidity and the still air it's just hanging.



we've got some orange yellow orange floaters, and even though up close it's green, from a distance its the Huang He.

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The Skimmer doors are pretty gross brown/orange too.

~1930 we were at 13ppm FC, 32oz of 10%Chlorine added. now that the sun is off the pool we might get some progress.
 

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2130 FC was 9ppm
Filter pressure was 20ish again, backwashed.
added roughly 96oz of 10% chlorine. I didn't have anyway to measure out three quarts besides the 250ml sample cup I use.
Had to put in fresh water so that I would have room to backwash again later. The addition was based on full 12500 so I may have overcorrected the FC for now but the hose will run for about an hour or so and the FC will have dropped by then anyway no?

I don't think I can trust the filter to run overnight, at 26PSI it'll start leaking at the large seal. I can't afford to blow the seal because no one near me is going to have a replacement in stock. I may have to recirculate overnight.
 
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