Cloudy water wont uncloudy ..

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YEGGIM actually I think the floc actually saved us some time. I should of taken a picture of the first day I flocked it. It was like sludge on the bottom of the pool. I spent 3 days vacuuming my pool to waste and each day I added a little bit of floc to it was better each day. so I say kuddo's to the floc for getting it out of my pool. I think I would not be as advanced in the process if I had not used floc. It was the first time I had seen my pool since May when we opened it.

As for not following proper steps before as SUPERTUNE suggested, you have to understand..we have had algae in the past...of all kinds. we had black algae and through patience, store pool testing and pool store chemicals we beat it...so for us to have done that and then spend weeks doing the same process on our own this time and not seeing it work was a huge let down and made us very frustrated. I was also getting conflicting advice in the beginning, even on here, as to what to do and what not to do.

Im not ready to throw in towel just yet. However, I am giving it to the first of Aug and if it has not cleared I will close it for winter. Since we have been working on it for two months at that point if it hasn't cleared..it isn't going to is my opinion. Even after doing our method vs shock method on here. I am ready to try anything anyone suggest...what is frustrating is I have turned off the pump when I did the flocking and like I said spend days vacuuming slowly to waste only to have it end up looking like the pictures b/c it gets stirred right back up.

The pictures you posted are very hopeful but yours was just a little cloudy where as mine is discolored, cloudy and unchanged for months. I do hope to see crystal clear water again. If you all suggest turning off the pump will be good, Ill do that. but then I will spend all day vacuuming to waste and end up throwing out bleach in the process....so im not sure I should???

Im not sure what kind of algae or problems our pool has right now...in the past we have worked on our own pool with no problems..even with algae...never had a problem getting it to clear. that is why we are so baffled this yr...it just will not clear. It's like our pool has some form of water cancer and nothing we do is getting rid of it. Things we have done succesfully in the past is not even touching it this yr. prior to getting an installed above ground pool we had the Intex pools for about 3/4 yrs and even with them..if we got algae...we were able to get rid of it...but like I said..this yr..NOTHING has been able to get rid of it. Nothing. Last yr our water was crystal clear all yr round...we opened in Late April/early may and was swimming all the way up after Sep...day, night you name it. it was awesome....this yr...we haven't swam at all...it's been on headache after another.

so that is why it is frustrating to us b/c we know we have fought it before and been successful and this yr not so much.

getting ready to post new results...
 
I've taken the time to read through all these posts, and I must say that I agree with Yeggim, cloudiness can be sorted once the pool water is blue instead of green IMHO. Guardwife 2, your doing fine, keep with the superchlorination, that you have been doing for the past few days, and it WILL change the pool in this photo was green when I started looking after it, admittedly not as bad as your green, but it took me over a week to get it blue and then around a week longer for the full blue silky shine to come through.

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Stuart
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new testing results:

FC 21
cc 1

I added one gallon of bleach...

thank you STUAMURR.....Im going to go take a picture....let me know you all think. with the sun behind the tree now I think I can cleary see the third step but want another opinion. (its like seeing your kid all of the time...you dont see the changes but other people do lol)
 
I agree, now we're seeing some improvement! Man, what a stubborn algae this is. But, we're making progress, and that's the important thing. It's starting to look like its settling a bit even with the filter going. If there is a way to adjust your return jet, I would nudge it a little towards the bottom. Maybe get the dead stuff to come up to skim level to filter it out. Or, you could try vacuuming the bottom straight to the filter. No need to worry about clogging, since you could just back wash if need be. Great job so far, keep up the battle :goodjob:
 
i do agree..there is a slight improvement...i can't turn the return jet..it is on pretty tight..my husband's doing...we had a sprinkler thing that used to be on it several yrs ago and we took it off. so he turned it down to the side and that is where it has stayed. I was thinking of putting a sock like liner in the basket and vacuuming it out..it would stir up stuff form the bottom but I didnt' want it blowing back into the pool. I think what I am going to do is continue the shock method tonight..not test quite as often as I did last night which was every hour..maybe every three hours or so b/c I can't pull an all nighter again tonight..im exhuasted. lol but if I continue to see results Ill keep it up. if not..Ill try the floc one night and see what happens.
 
new test results:

FC 24
CC 1.5

added oen gallon of bleach and brushed the heck out of my pool...posting pics now..it is stirred up fierce now. But while i was brushing yellow came up first and then greenish....
 
yeah, that should help get that dead stuff to filter out. I do see an improvement. You went from cloudy to translucent it seems. That yellow most likely is the dead algae, might be a good idea to brush every now and then to get it to circulate through the filter.
 
Ok will do for sure. here is my plan for tonight is the following:

Test till midnight...then add a gallon of bleach or two depending on test results. Go to bed..get up at 6am and retest pool and then go from there on adding bleach. Im going to continue the shock method and see if I start seeing more changes. I will continue to brush and go from there as needed too.
 

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This may be a dumb question... I have skimmed but not read carefully the previous 8 pages.

Is there a point where it is cheaper and smarter just to dump the water and start over?
 
Underwatervanya: I have asked the same thing but I guess there is risk to my liner or the pool collapsing in on it's self. We did last month dump half of the water out and add new in but even that did not help. Im just stumped here.

I just went out and did a reading....My last reading was 9:30 last night. I wanted to do one more reading before going to bed but I fell asleep. I was exhausted for being awake all night and all day from working on the pool. So I got up early this morning to get the reading.

FC 18.5
CC 1

so I added one gallon of bleach

My CC has been staying at one for a while now actually since 11:45am yesterday. My FC has been going up and down though. I took a look at the water this morning...there is no change that I can see. Im going to wait till the sun if up fully before I definitely say if there has been a change or not in appearance/color. I did do a quick backwash/rinse b/c the gauge was reading 20..normal for us is 14/16. I brushed the heck out of it last night so I am assuming it was filtering out the gunk in it.
 
sorry went back to sleep...still making up for being up all night BUT I tested at 5am this morning and just now at 10am and lost only 1ppm and the cc is now.5

FC17
CC.5

no bleach added

water still looks the same..no change so please advise on what to do? im at a lose as to why the water isn't changing. Ill post pic here in a min.
 
guardwife2 said:
sorry went back to sleep...still making up for being up all night BUT I tested at 5am this morning and just now at 10am and lost only 1ppm and the cc is now.5

FC17
CC.5

no bleach added

water still looks the same..no change so please advise on what to do? im at a lose as to why the water isn't changing. Ill post pic here in a min.
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You said you added a gallon of bleach at 18 FC at around 6am. Is that correct? Because that means you went from 18+1 gallon of bleach to 17.5.
 
yes...that is correct I added one gallon around 5:30am and posted shortly afterwards. but I only needed to put in 34 drops this morning for the FC so my recording was 17 ??

I made a file of all of the ladder pics and honestly I dont see a change at all. I think the ladder pic form today is worse than yesterday. the third step is more cloudy. I just feel there should be some change in color, cloudyiness, etc of the water by now and there is none.
 
Im really beginning to think I am not fighting algae but something else...my water should of had some small change and I see none. Im even having one of my neighbors take alook at the ladder pics and they dont see a change either. sigh....Im going to continue doing the shocking process however at some point in time Im going to have to stop...I can't keep adding gallons and gallons of bleach to it with no change. getting frustrated again and seriously thinking of draining it.
 
The fact that you still have a CC of 1 suggests that the algae is still fighting with the chlorine, but your figures do suggest your CC reading dropping albeit rather slowly, you are winning the fight, there is no fast alternative, draining now will be pointless as you have put in so much bleach already to fight it, and you need so much bleach to scrub and then re-dose the new water, once your CC starts to fall to 0.5 or below you have reached the point where chlorine is back in control of your water

Stuart
 

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