Can you have 2 intellichem systems connected to 1 easytouch panel?

[KamikazJC]

My pool builder set my pool and spa up as 2 separate bodies of water. They both have their own filters, Mastertemps, IC40s, Pumps, ect. But they share 1 easy-touch panel.

He also installed 2 intellichem systems. My pool intellichem is wired into the easytouch and the IC40 is connected to the built-in salt transformer in the easy touch. The other is for my spa and it is connected to an Intellichlor power center that powers the spa IC40.

The problem is when I use the screenlogic app, I can only see my pool chemistry and I can't see what my spa is. My question is can I use the com ports and connect my spa intellichem to the easytouch as well so in the app I can see both bodies of water?

I understand I may need the com port expansion board to accomplish this but before I buy it I want to know if it is even possible and will work.

 

[Jimrahbe]

JC,

If you have two separate bodies of water, then you have the wrong automation system...

You should have a dual sytem.. Either an IntelliTouch or IntelliCenter dual body of water systems.

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[KamikazJC]

JC,

If you have two separate bodies of water, then you have the wrong automation system...

You should have a dual sytem.. Either an IntelliTouch or IntelliCenter dual body of water systems.

Thanks,

Jim R.

I agree, I have no idea why he plumbed them separately, and didn't set them up using the built-in pool/spa system and the actuator valve a&b. So would the best thing be to get another panel? Easytouch?

 

[Jimrahbe]

JC,

I assume the spa does NOT overflow into your pool.. Is that correct?

I'll try to give you a couple of ideas, but to be honest, having two separate systems is not very common, so not something I have any real experience with. You might want to call Pentair and see what they have to say...

As far as I know, the EasyTouch can only control one SWCG and one heater. It can control two VS pumps. I assume it can only control one IntelliChem. (We do not recommend the IntelliChem in most cases..) Do you plan to use it as just an acid pump or do you plan on allowing it to control your FC (Chlorine levels)??

The IntelliTouch (Similar to the EasyTouch) has an option for a Dual equipment system. It will control two of everything, but it makes no mention of the IntelliChem, but assume it will.. See the following link..

Pentair IntelliTouch i10+3D Pool/Spa - Dual Equipment Controls

The new IntelliCenter also has a Dual Equipment card.

Pentair IntelliCenter i10D Personality Kit - Dual Equipment

Another option would be to install two EasyTouch units.. The one you have now for the Pool and another one for just the Spa..

I see this as a pain, but workable...

Pentair EasyTouch PL4 Pool Control System w/ScreenLogic

One problem I see is that the salt cell should not get any power when the main pump is not running.. This is done by the SWCG transformer being wired into the load side of the pump/filter relay. In you current set up this works great for your pool SWCG, but not the SWCG that is in your Spa. I don't believe that your second IC40 will show up on your ScreenLogic anymore than your second IntelliChem.

I suggest that you contact Pentair and see if they have some better options.

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[KamikazJC]

Jim,
Thank you so much for this. I just looked and its an Intellitouch i10 + 3d system not the easytouch. So that is on me, with the intellitouch i10 can I control two SWCG, It looks like it is controlling 2 heathers fine.

Thanks and sorry for giving the wrong infromation.

JC

JC,

I assume the spa does NOT overflow into your pool.. Is that correct?

I'll try to give you a couple of ideas, but to be honest, having two separate systems is not very common, so not something I have any real experience with. You might want to call Pentair and see what they have to say...

As far as I know, the EasyTouch can only control one SWCG and one heater. It can control two VS pumps. I assume it can only control one IntelliChem. (We do not recommend the IntelliChem in most cases..) Do you plan to use it as just an acid pump or do you plan on allowing it to control your FC (Chlorine levels)??

The IntelliTouch (Similar to the EasyTouch) has an option for a Dual equipment system. It will control two of everything, but it makes no mention of the IntelliChem, but assume it will.. See the following link..

Pentair IntelliTouch i10+3D Pool/Spa - Dual Equipment Controls

The new IntelliCenter also has a Dual Equipment card.

Pentair IntelliCenter i10D Personality Kit - Dual Equipment

Another option would be to install two EasyTouch units.. The one you have now for the Pool and another one for just the Spa..

I see this as a pain, but workable...

Pentair EasyTouch PL4 Pool Control System w/ScreenLogic

One problem I see is that the salt cell should not get any power when the main pump is not running.. This is done by the SWCG transformer being wired into the load side of the pump/filter relay. In you current set up this works great for your pool SWCG, but not the SWCG that is in your Spa. I don't believe that your second IC40 will show up on your ScreenLogic anymore than your second IntelliChem.

I suggest that you contact Pentair and see if they have some better options.

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[Jimrahbe]

with the intellitouch i10 can I control two SWCG,

K,

I "assume" yes, but do not know that for a fact, as I have never seen a dual equipment set up.

I believe that the dual equipment IntelliTouch has two Pump/Filter relays, so it can control two SWCG's.

Not sure at all if ScreenLogic will recognize Dual Equipment or not..

Does your ScreenLogic show two sets of equipment?

What does this set up page show for you???

Set up page 2.JPG

• Jimrahbe
• Jun 8, 2020

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[KamikazJC]

K,

I "assume" yes, but do not know that for a fact, as I have never seen a dual equipment set up.

I believe that the dual equipment IntelliTouch has two Pump/Filter relays, so it can control two SWCG's.

Not sure at all if ScreenLogic will recognize Dual Equipment or not..

Does your ScreenLogic show two sets of equipment?

What does this set up page show for you???

Set up page 2.JPG

• Jimrahbe
• Jun 8, 2020

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[Jimrahbe]

K,

I don't see a lot of difference... Not sure what I expected, but I had assumed it would have looked different.

I did find a lay out for your circuit card and it does have two heater connections and two Pump/Filter relays.. One of each for the pool and another one each for the spa.

I did not find anything that talked about having two SWCG's or two IntelliChem systems.

In your ScreenLogic system does it have two sections, one for the Pool and one for the Spa? Do you get two different IntelliChlor (SWCG) pages something like this one??


View media item 1963

Sorry I could not answer your initial question.

Thanks,

Jim R.

 

[KamikazJC]

Jim,
Thanks for your help, This is what I see, it looks like it is alternating between the two intellichem systems, so it does look like it is recognizing them both. I just never noticed they were alternating in the screen. I think in all this just having you make me get in the screen logic has helped me realize that they are alternating. I would have thought I woud have two tabs one intellichem tab for pool and one intellichem tab for spa.

Thanks for your help.

 

[Jimrahbe]

K,

That is good to know.. It appears to me that in the first pic, if you select the Pool output, you will see the pool side of things.. The same for the spa output.

It works much better than I thought it would.

Good luck with your new system.

Jim R.