borjis
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A slight "shock"
- Thread starter TN94z
- Start date
Right, but wouldn't that point to leaking voltage from another location other than the house?
- May 31, 2018
- 90
- Pool Size
- 20000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- CircuPool RJ-45 Plus
Exactly. Either a neighbor has a subpanel with the main bonding jumper installed, or a utility transformer is starting to fail and current is going to ground. Another possibility is a damaged underground service lateral.
That's what I thought. My main goal at this moment is to get this bonding grid repaired. Per my understanding, even if there is a leaking voltage issue, a correctly installed bonding grid would prevent me from feeling this shock. So I want to get this resolved no matter what it takes and then I'll have someone do some testing for the leaking voltage issue. Also, a bonding grid is basically just having each conductive device connected to every other device, right? I just want to make sure I have this all straight in my head.
Am I correct in my thinking there?
borjis
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CJadamec
TFP Expert
You are ignoring to some extent that a properly bonded pool will prevent this shock from happening even if the source is not in your house.
Solve the bonding issue and the shock will go away.
Solve the bonding issue and the shock will go away.
borjis
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So, It's not looking like I will have any luck with electricians. Should I just rent a concrete saw and cut a trench all the way around my pool, and bury a wire connecting everything metal?
Ok, so I have made my mind up to bust up the concrete to resolve this issue the correct way. My question now is, can I just bust the concrete up starting at the water's edge and extend out 24" instead of busting up the entire pad around the whole pool? The plan is to bust up the 24", lay wire mesh down, run a new ground wire that is tied into the wire mesh and the bond wire that was originally tied to the pool walls, ladder cups, and diving board feet, and then come out of the pad to the equipment outside of the pad.
To add to my last reply, is laying mesh before pouring the concrete the same as putting rebar in the concrete as far as bonding the concrete goes?
You have a really complicated issue. You really need an expert onsite to advise you about this.
Bonding may or may not fix the problem depending on what the source of the current/voltage is.
This is not something we can diagnose and fix online.
While we're willing to give you our opinion, you should not consider it to be any sort of definitive answer.
Any time you feel a shock, it's a serious safety issue that needs to be resolved by an expert onsite.
Bonding may or may not fix the problem depending on what the source of the current/voltage is.
This is not something we can diagnose and fix online.
While we're willing to give you our opinion, you should not consider it to be any sort of definitive answer.
Any time you feel a shock, it's a serious safety issue that needs to be resolved by an expert onsite.
The problem is there are no experts in this area evidently. But I think we all know that there is a bonding grid issue regardless of where the voltage is coming from. Having said that, the concrete issue needs to be done.
But I do have the question on bonding the concrete of whether it has to have rebar to attach the bond wire too or is that the same as laying the mesh down, bonding to it, then pouring concrete on top of that ?
- Jul 21, 2013
- 65,181
- Pool Size
- 35000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
I don't think electrically it makes a difference.
You going to use something like this - https://www.erico.com/catalog/literature/E673B.pdf ?
Is this an issue?? See the light coming from around the housing? Shouldn’t that be a tight seal?
No concern. The light itself is sealed. The niche is wet.
An important thing to realize is that even if you throw a toaster in a properly bonded pool, you will NOT feel a shock.