brushpup- unfortunately its true here. especially in long beach, they are an unfriendly city when it comes to the building department. i know of many instances here where people have had things like additions or backhouses on their property that were not permitted and were forced to tear them down. even if they were existing previous to ownership. for example, if i were to just get this pool up and running without a permit they would make me remove the pool in its entirety and at my own expense of course. rumor has it that they have had some serious issues in the past with pools that were poorly done and caused some problems so they are pretty tough on pools.
however when i installed the urinal in my garage, i had no permit and the inspectors who were here to inspect the home improvements previously mentioned thought it was the coolest thing ever. so it just goes to show you that it all depends on who you deal with, not neccesarily everybody will be a jerk. its just a matter of finding the right person to approve the project.
i actually work in the inspection dept. at my job and know this to be true. so, heres to hoping i can find the right person to make this happen. i dont give up easily. usually not ever.
on another note, i was moving some dirt around last night and dontthink the deep end hole is quite as big as originally thought. looks like the main drain was removed though.