New TFP Member and New (To Me) Intex Ultra 20' x 52" AGP

Snarf

New member
Jun 15, 2023
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Portage, MI
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8638
Surface
Vinyl
Hello, fellow TFP'ers!

I've been lurking and researching here for almost a month now in preparation of setting up our pool. I've come to the point where I think it's best I just introduce myself and put any assumptions/questions to rest. My cousin got a new pool this year and gifted us his very well taken care of Intex Ultra 20' x 52" pool with sand filter. The only thing we need to do is get a new liner. Like most with Ultra frames have come to find out, Intex does not make "Ultra parts" anymore. Though, some members have also discovered that many of the parts for various newer models are indeed the same part but some may have some small, minuscule changes such as paint color. Thankfully, I do not need to replace any parts as my cousin took extremely good care of the pool. The one and only part I do need to replace is the liner. In my lurking and searching I've come to the conclusion that the new 20' x 52" liners (only model with 20' x 52" option is the Prism) will fit my Ultra frame but with slightly smaller openings for the tee's AND with two returns for the pump versus a single return on the old Ultra liner.

Am I correct in my conclusion of the new 20' x 52" liners? As well, I recall one member who recommended purchasing the newest model liner to take advantage on the most recent model improvements. Is this correct/wise as well?

I've selected an area that I feel will be the best fit for the pool and that is also one of the more level spots in the yard. There honestly isn't a single 20' diameter spot in the yard that is perfectly level or doesn't have some uneven spots here or there. The spot I did choose does have a 4-5' concave area where I suspect settling had happened long ago over an old septic or drain field area as the home is connected to sewer. In the two options mentioned hereafter, this area would likely be what the area is leveled to OR what will receive a bit more of the crushed rock as a leveling base.

I am going back and forth on which way to go with this spot. Hopefully some of you could be of assistance here and lend some advice or recommendations. One way would be to rent a sod cutter (or throw my back out with a shovel which I really don't want to do) and perfectly level a 20' + area, place the under leg supports, add and compact crushed paver/rock, cover with foam and a pad (coming to the same level as the top of the under leg supports), and then placing the pool. The other way would be to kill off the grass in a 20' + area, place all the under leg supports, level them all together with a water level, and then place crushed paver/rock, compact, lay foam and pad (again all level with the top of the under leg supports), and then place the pool. Both options would then just have some landscape of sorts added around the perimeter to make it look nice and presentable. Thought's or ideas???

Thanks in advance for any and all feedback. It is greatly appreciated and I look forward to engaging with everyone here and the support as we ease into being pool owners!
 
Hey there Snarf :). Welcome!
I can't answer your questions but I can share some informative links that our member @ajw22 has organized and written in the TFP Wiki directory:
Pool Care Basics

Maddie :flower:
 
One way would be to rent a sod cutter (or throw my back out with a shovel which I really don't want to do) and perfectly level a 20' + area, place the under leg supports, add and compact crushed paver/rock, cover with foam and a pad (coming to the same level as the top of the under leg supports), and then placing the pool.

I don't see a big difference between the two. Only difference is how you get rid of the grass.

The other way would be to kill off the grass in a 20' + area, place all the under leg supports, level them all together with a water level, and then place crushed paver/rock, compact, lay foam and pad (again all level with the top of the under leg supports), and then place the pool.

I don't think you can perfectly level an area.

Either way you will need to water level the leg supports and prepare a base under the pool.

 
Hey there Snarf :). Welcome!
I can't answer your questions but I can share some informative links that our member @ajw22 has organized and written in the TFP Wiki directory:
Pool Care Basics

Maddie :flower:
Thanks for the reply and links, Maddie! I’d seen and read some of them but hadn’t seen the others. Thanks for putting them in front of me!

Aaron
 
I don't see a big difference between the two. Only difference is how you get rid of the grass.



I don't think you can perfectly level an area.

Either way you will need to water level the leg supports and prepare a base under the pool.

You know, after reading your response and thinking about it a minute, you’re right. The only thing that changes between the two are how the grass is gotten rid of.

So, that leaves the difference down to just the 2.5” difference in the elevation of the pool. 2.5” being what the sod cutter will remove. The leg supports (pavers or blocks) will be leveled to the support of lowest elevation either 2.5” under the current ground level after sod is removed or at the current ground level after the grass is killed. One just will require less physical labor as well as saving money on renting a sod cutter.

As my thought process progresses, In removing the sod, that will create a 2.5” or more deep basin for water to pool in as it soaks into the ground. Without removing the sod and instead elevating the pool off the current ground level with blocks/pavers and the compacted base material, I assume that would leave more opportunities and distance for the water to run away from the pool. As well, it’d also leave the area under the pool a bit more open to air in the event a more coarse aggregate is used under the foam and pad such as a crushed stone or etc. More air, less moisture, less a risk of mold or mildew, less a chance of anaerobic pockets to build up, less insect activity, etc.

Sorry, just thinking out loud here as a sounding board persay.
 
As my thought process progresses, In removing the sod, that will create a 2.5” or more deep basin for water to pool in as it soaks into the ground. Without removing the sod and instead elevating the pool off the current ground level with blocks/pavers and the compacted base material, I assume that would leave more opportunities and distance for the water to run away from the pool. As well, it’d also leave the area under the pool a bit more open to air in the event a more coarse aggregate is used under the foam and pad such as a crushed stone or etc. More air, less moisture, less a risk of mold or mildew, less a chance of anaerobic pockets to build up, less insect activity, etc.

You don't want the bottom of the pool hanging in a basin.

You want the thousands of pounds of pool water sitting on undisturbed ground.

I would leave the sod, kill the grass, level the supports and put the pool on the undisturbed ground.
 
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You don't want the bottom of the pool hanging in a basin.

You want the thousands of pounds of pool water sitting on undisturbed ground.

I would leave the sod, kill the grass, level the supports and put the pool on the undisturbed ground.
Thanks, ajw22, and sorry for the delay. Busy work week.

After typing that and mulling it over for the next day or two, I came to the same conclusion. Not going to remove the sod. I’m going to go through the yard with a water level and make sure that the spot I picked is indeed the most level and best spot. Then, I’ll proceed as you said.

No parts of my yard have a completely flat (not speaking level) 20’ diameter spot. So, in knowing I should only dig down high spots as opposed to fill low spots, I’ll have to factor that into reevaluating the location. That should all keep me from having to bring in any crusher and renting a plate compactor for it. I’ll only need to account for the 1/2” foam and pad when leveling the blocks for leg support.
 
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