Connecting 3 Pentair 011056 Intelliflo VS pumps to my Jandy iAquaLink.

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I have 3 Jandy single-speed pumps and 3 Pentairs 011056 Intellliflo VS pumps, and a Jandy iAqualink (latest revision) RS-P16 controller.

Goal:
With my 3 new Pentair 011056 Intelliflo VS pumps, I want to be able to:

A. Turn on/off these 3 Pentair pumps via iAquaLink
B. Control RPM speed of the 3 Pentair pumps via iAqualink.

I know, as an alternative, I -could- just use the control panel on the 3 Pentair 011056 Intelliflo VS pumps to control the RPM speed, but I'd rather be able to control it from the iAquaLink app -IF- possible (using the RS-485 cabled connection, which I already have hooked up).


Please note:
I have spent many hours and hours searching and reading up on pages here and YouTube videos and I still cannot comprehend how on earth to control my 3 Pentair 011056 Intelliflo VS pumps with my Jandy iAquaLink. None of the notes/documentation provided anywhere are completely comprehensive and are seemingly only just a spattering of pieces and info. Ugh.


I want to ask a couple really basic questions first:

Q1. Some posts (not all) mention that the Pentair 011056 pumps should be powered directly from the breaker instead of powered from a relay. I have yet to find -any- documentation supporting this despite people mentioning this? Can someone explain why some people are saying to connect the Pentair pumps directly to their respective breakers instead of to their respective relays? At first glance this seems like a very bad idea to me as the pump would ALWAYS be powered if wired that way?


Q2. Since I have 3 Pentair 011056 Intelliflo VS pumps, is it -required- that before hooking up the RS485 connection, that I first set a unique Pump Address at each Pentair 011056 Intelloflow pump's control panel (Pump #1@address1, Pump #2@address2, Pump #3@address3)?


Q3. Is there anyone here actually controlling 1 or more Pentair 011056 pumps with their Jandy iAqualink using the RS-485 connection to control the pump ON/OFF -and- RPM speed??


I think I need those questions answered FIRST, before asking further questions setting up the programming in the iAqualink VSP settings, etc. Anyone that can help with Q1 through Q3? Thank you so much.

J
 
mknauss said:
See if this helps.

Jandy Aqualink RS - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com www.troublefreepool.com
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I've gone over that link countless times and I still don't have answers to the above questions, or the next set of questions I'll have, once I get those answered :-( I didn however at least tell me how the RS-485 cable(s) are to be connected, which I have done.
 
The iAquaLink can control 4 pumps.
First the pumps are connected to the LINE side of the HP Relay. This gives it constant power. The CB will also be connected to the LINE side to give the HP Relay Power. 1 pump will be the main filtration pump and that will go to the First (normally Top Left) HP Relay in the cabinet. The pump needs constant power to run the electronics on board.
The Second pump will be connected to another HP relay - again to the LINE side and same for the third pump. Each of the LINE sides will obtain power from its dedicated CB. Do not run 2 pumps from the same CB.

To control each pump, the RS485 cable will need to be run to a RED connector. You should have 2 RED connectors on the top of your board. You can connect 2 devices to each RED connector. So 2 pumps to one and 1 pump + the Antenna to the other. If you have something else that needs a RS485 connection then you will need to purchase the RED connector extension board.

When you go into the app to set up each pump. Set the filtration pump first as Pump 1 and select Pentair IntelliFlo and you must select VS mode (RPM). The Jandy system does not recognize the VF mode of the pump. (GPM).

Come back with more questions. See photos below.

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This is a quick schematic of your HP Relay
Main Power and Pump are connected to LINE 1 and LINE 2
An accessory such as a SWCG or a Heater can connect to LOAD 1 and LOAD 2.
Therefore if automation tells pump to turn off, the RELAY will turn off and the accessory will lose power.
However, the PUMP still has power but it is not running because the RS485 connection told it to turn off.
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HermanTX said:
The iAquaLink can control 4 pumps.
First the pumps are connected to the LINE side of the HP Relay. This gives it constant power. The CB will also be connected to the LINE side to give the HP Relay Power. 1 pump will be the main filtration pump and that will go to the First (normally Top Left) HP Relay in the cabinet. The pump needs constant power to run the electronics on board.
The Second pump will be connected to another HP relay - again to the LINE side and same for the third pump. Each of the LINE sides will obtain power from its dedicated CB. Do not run 2 pumps from the same CB.
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Sorry if I don't know the abbreviations. What is "HP" in regards to the relay? I'm assuming "CB" is circuit breaker? Is there any particular reason you're saying to provide power from the LINE side (assuming by that, you mean PINS 1 and 3) of the relay, instead of providing power straight from the breaker itself? Does it matter? Right now, all 3 Pentair pumps are powered from Pins 2 and 4 of their applicable relays (each on their own breaker), so I assume I'd need to change each pump to Pins 1 and 3, fro Pins and 4, correct?. I understand the Intelliflow pumps needs constant power due to electronics on board (I wasn't answer of that before) though I'm not sure I understand what would actually be "lost" if the pumps are powered by a relay instead of breaker power.?

Re: the RS-485 conections, I already have all the applicable RS-485 connections completed. I have 10 total RS-485 in my iAqualink; (2) on the main PCB, (4) on Multiplexer #1, and another (4) on Multiplexer #2.

Can you by chance answer Question #2 in my initial post if you happen to know the answer?

Thanks for chiming in.
 
HermanTX said:
This is a quick schematic of your HP Relay
Main Power and Pump are connected to LINE 1 and LINE 2
An accessory such as a SWCG or a Heater can connect to LOAD 1 and LOAD 2.
Therefore if automation tells pump to turn off, the RELAY will turn off and the accessory will lose power.
However, the PUMP still has power but it is not running because the RS485 connection told it to turn off.
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To follow up...
This is how how I have it CURRENTLY wired...

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So looks like I need to move my new Pentair 01156 Intelliflo VS Filter Pump from Pins 2 and 4 (where my old single speed Jandy pump was powered from) to Pins 1 and 3 instead, and then re-do my diagram. (and the same for the 2 other pumps that are aux pumps for water features).
 
jesse-99 said:
so I assume I'd need to change each pump to Pins 1 and 3, fro Pins and 4, correct?.
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YES. See my second post with the schematic.

For your Q2 - the answer was the picture of the screen for the pump set up. It is all done from the app so long as you have the RS 485 cables connected.
 
jesse-99 said:
To follow up...
This is how how I have it CURRENTLY wired...

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So looks like I need to move my new Pentair 01156 Intelliflo VS Filter Pump from Pins 2 and 4 (where my old single speed Jandy pump was powered from) to Pins 1 and 3 instead, and then re-do my diagram. (and the same for the 2 other pumps that are aux pumps for water features).
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Move the pump to Pins 1 and 3 to receive constant power and the relay is still active because of the main power going to it.
 
HermanTX said:
For your Q2 - the answer was the picture of the screen for the pump set up. It is all done from the app so long as you have the RS 485 cables connected.
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I think I'm still confused here. Don't I FIRST have to go into the control panel of each Pentair pump and MANUALLY set the address there? According to the manual I found online for the 011056 pump (https://www.pentair.com/content/dam...e-speed/intelliflo-vs-pump-manual-english.pdf) , on pages 9-10 it states that "if multiple pumps are connected via RS-485, you have the change the pumps address to allow the automation system to send commands to the proper pump" (paraphrasing here) ? I see your screenshot but that doesn't take into account for manually setting the addressing on the actual pumps? (at least from what I can tell). I think I'd still need to set the addresses FIRST myself?

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Follow up to Q2. For the 2nd pump the application will be Auxiliary. Then when you go to the next screen to set the speeds, you will have a column to select the auxiliary so the system knows what functions to perform.
Same with Pump #3. Set it to Auxiliary but on next screen the auxiliary will be different from pump #2.
I only have 1 VS pump. My water feature pump is a single speed, so it is just set to anether HP relay but is just on or off.
 
jesse-99 said:
I think I'm still confused here. Don't I FIRST have to go into the control panel of each Pentair pump and MANUALLY set the address there? According to the manual I found online for the 011056 pump (https://www.pentair.com/content/dam...e-speed/intelliflo-vs-pump-manual-english.pdf) , on pages 9-10 it states that "if multiple pumps are connected via RS-485, you have the change the pumps address to allow the automation system to send commands to the proper pump" (paraphrasing here) ? I see your screenshot but that doesn't take into account for manually setting the addressing on the actual pumps? (at least from what I can tell). I think I'd still need to set the addresses FIRST myself?

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Yes. I was only addressing how to select the pump in the automation. denote each pump as 1 (default), 2 and 3.
 
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Okay, so my current set of Action-Items to do is:

1. Move all 3 Pentair 011056 pumps from being powered via pins 2+4 of each respective relay to pins 1+3 of each respective relay -- this means the pump will never turn off and will ALWAYS be powered on.
2. Once the 3 pumps are correctly powered, then go to each individual pump and use the control panel's menu system to set the unique address on each pump. My filter pump will be RS-485 address#1, water feature #1 will be RS-485 address#2, and water feature #3, will be RS-485 address#3.

When having done that, I -should- see the following in my VSP Setup screen of my iAquaLink?? (this is edited with Paint 3D, I don't actually see this yet) .. Am I on track so far?

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PS -- what do you mean by "HP" relay, what is HP abbreviated for?
 
jesse-99 said:
Move all 3 Pentair 011056 pumps from being powered via pins 2+4 of each respective relay to pins 1+3 of each respective relay -- this means the pump will never turn off and will ALWAYS be powered on.
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The pump will always have POWER, but whether it is off or on is controlled by the RS485 cable to the automation schedule

jesse-99 said:
2. Once the 3 pumps are correctly powered, then go to each individual pump and use the control panel's menu system to set the unique address on each pump. My filter pump will be RS-485 address#1, water feature #1 will be RS-485 address#2, and water feature #3, will be RS-485 address#3.

When having done that, I -should- see the following in my VSP Setup screen of my iAquaLink?? (this is edited with Paint 3D, I don't actually see this yet) .. Am I on track so far?
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Yes. The screen after this will allow you to set speeds and should select the proper HP auxiliary for control.
 
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Great info so far, thanks for putting up with all my endless questions.

I want to make sure that, once I get the to-do tasks from my last post done, I will still be able to (as I could with my old Jandy single speed pumps)
  • Turn the 011056 Filter Pump (address#1) on/off via a schedule, or at-will, in my iAquaLink
  • Turn the 011056 Disappearing Edge Pump (address#2) (on/off via a schedule, or at-will, in my iAquaLink
  • Turn the 011056 Water Slide Pump (address#3) on/off via a schedule, or at-will, in my iAquaLink
I'm 99% the answer is YES to all of that?

I also want to make sure that, once I get the to-do tasks from my last post done, I will *also* be able to:
  • Adjust the RPMs on the 011056 Filter Pump (address#1) via a schedule, or at-will, in my iAquaLink
  • Adjust the RPMs on the 011056 Disappearing Edge Pump (address#2) via a schedule, or at-will, in my iAquaLink
  • Adjust the RPMS on the 011056 Water Slide Pump (address #3) via a schedule, or at-will, in my iAquaLink
I'm hoping the answer is YES to those as well?
 
jesse-99 said:
PS -- what do you mean by "HP" relay, what is HP abbreviated for?
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These auxiliaries are designed to handle pumps up to 3 HP. Also, not to be confused with the low voltage sockets that link to each auxiliary and sometimes are only referred to as auxiliary so the HP Auxiliary indicates the main power connections.
 
jesse-99 said:
Great info so far, thanks for putting up with all my endless questions.

I want to make sure that, once I get the to-do tasks from my last post done, I will still be able to (as I could with my old Jandy single speed pumps)
  • Turn the 011056 Filter Pump (address#1) on/off via a schedule, or at-will, in my iAquaLink
  • Turn the 011056 Disappearing Edge Pump (address#2) (on/off via a schedule, or at-will, in my iAquaLink
  • Turn the 011056 Water Slide Pump (address#3) on/off via a schedule, or at-will, in my iAquaLink
I'm 99% the answer is YES to all of that?

I also want to make sure that, once I get the to-do tasks from my last post done, I will *also* be able to:
  • Adjust the RPMs on the 011056 Filter Pump (address#1) via a schedule, or at-will, in my iAquaLink
  • Adjust the RPMs on the 011056 Disappearing Edge Pump (address#2) via a schedule, or at-will, in my iAquaLink
  • Adjust the RPMS on the 011056 Water Slide Pump (address #3) via a schedule, or at-will, in my iAquaLink
I'm hoping the answer is YES to those as well?
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Each Pump will have its own address and as you set it up you will be able to set up various speeds for it.
I do not have multiple VS pumps but my understanding is that teh screen after the pump selection, you will then go to the speed set up and there be able to establsih various labels. Those labels will then show in the schedule so you can set times and when that schedule becaomes active that corresponding speed will be active.
Notice the top right box - Pump 1. This should change to Pump 2, Pump 3 as you set speeds and labels for each.
You may need to set labels in a different section.

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See how the Labels in the speed set up are then able to be selected in the schedule screen. FYI - Filter Pump & POOL are one and the same for the main filtration pump.
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It has been a while since I set up the labels. But you may need to go to these screens to set up the labels For the equipment connected to each of the HP Relay Auxiliaries
The Aux1, 2, 3 are the corresponding HP Relay Auxiliaries that your additional pumps are connected to. The Main filter pump is always connected to the Filter Pump Relay

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Note - the Speed Labels have some preset names but you can change them in the Speed Setup screen. For your Filter Pump it is best to use the preset up labels such as POOL, SPA, CLEANER, etc. Then the other speeds you can create new names as I did.
 
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Thanks @HermanTX --- I think it's starting to make sense now, and thank you for the extra screenshots. Very helpful info. Once I get my to-do list complete in the next couple of days, I'll be sure to update you and post some pics with screenshots, etc. I think based on what you shared, I should then be able to accomplish everything I was asking about in my previous post regarding scheduling on/off the each of the 3 VSP pumps, and scheduling different RPMs for each of the 3 VSP pumps too.

I am still curious if anyone out there actually has 2+ Pentair VSPs running with Jandy iAqualink. I'm glad you have 1 running at least, that gives me some piece of mind.

PS - I love this forum.
 

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