Interesting that you say that...so, when the pool was first installed the jet pressure wasn't great...I came home they had fixed it - I don't remember running the spillway after that - now I just looked and the "eyes" in the jets were cut out - now just the large circles, so they cannot be pointed. Before the spillway went over nicely, and the water was flat, now its loud with jets and bubbles and spills over...totally different?
Toxophilite
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Yep, they changed to larger eyeball or took them out (hope not), and yes, the air and water mix in the housing, so the faster water is pulling some air through now. I would run your spa and turn on your blower and see if the jets work satisfactorily. They may not have fixed anything, but, I know when I run my spillway mode and it utilizes the spa jets for return, it looks much like what your pic shows.
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Yes when I run the spa and turn on the blower the jets are very strong. They did cut out the smaller eyeball, I wonder if that's why the bubbling when running the spillway?
Toxophilite
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Yes, when the opening of the jet is enlarged, the water moves faster out of the housing, which will allow it to pull more air than previous even without the blower. When the blower is on, more air is forced through with the jetted water. So, by their fix, they increased the "action" of the jet, not necessarily more pressure. But, more volume and aeration is a stronger feeling jet.
Here's a pic of one style, and you can see how opening the front more would cause less restriction and more flow. If you don't like the bubbles in spillway, you might try lowering the rpm's a bit at a time and see if slowing the flow will get you back to normal. Or, leave be.
Here's a pic of one style, and you can see how opening the front more would cause less restriction and more flow. If you don't like the bubbles in spillway, you might try lowering the rpm's a bit at a time and see if slowing the flow will get you back to normal. Or, leave be.
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Shoot ok thank you. Yes, I do not like the spa bubbling when the spillway is on - ruins the whole effect - I will see if I can have someone maybe come out and replace the eyeballs...
Toxophilite
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Not ratifying their "fix", but if you do like the way the spa jets are working now, there's going to be a trade-off going back the other way again. I'm sure your PB found this out already. It might could be approached from the air side. Others here are more knowledgeable on such, but could be that a check in the air line might be enough to stop the air siphon.
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got it, you are right, it will be a trade off
Grrrrr...Just wish I would have known. Maybe I will just swap out the eyeballs myself and see which way I like better....but thank you for pointing out what I didn't notice!SO I talked to a friend, she has jets/returns by her ankles - I'm thinking maybe that's why mine is super bubbly - I only have the ones by lower back....also, I spoke to the guy who did my start up, he thinks maybe the lines were full of water when spillway was running before, but once blower kicked on, it blew all the water out of the lines and now there is more aration/bubbles when I use the spillway?
Toxophilite
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Could be with her lower jets having more resistance, can't say, could just be a other differences in pump, plumbing, etc..... But, the bubbles are quite normal and expected for a spa return running full at ~3K rpm's. The air line will always have pool level water in it till something moves it, so not sure about the start up guy's theory holding water. If it were mine, and I really didn't like the bubbles but loved the spa action and spillway action, I would put a valve in the air line to cut it off and make sure blower breaker is off so blower can't ever run against the closed pipe. Of course, that would mean having to manually open the valve and set the breaker each time I want to use the blower, but if air is my peeve, I'd eliminate the air. Others here may have better solution for eliminating the air siphoning.
Hey there I don’t have anything on my blower there’s no valve attached to it at all
CAgirl8, just to confirm, you only have one pump installed on your system, correct? I can only see one from your photo and only one is shown in your signature.
You keep referring to 'the jets' being on. In a shared-body system, you may or may not have a combination of regular returns and true 'jets' in your spa wall. This is dependent on how your builder plumbed it and how many pumps you have. If you only have one pump, then there are no 'jets' in the formal sense. Just regular returns as Toxo referenced.
As has been suggested by several, the only thing that would create the commotion you dislike is if your Intelliflo is running at a high RPM and/or the blower is aerating your return flow.
EDIT: weirdly, the thread was much shorter until after I posted; then suddenly two extra days of posts showed up. My comment is less relevant than before. Apologies.
You keep referring to 'the jets' being on. In a shared-body system, you may or may not have a combination of regular returns and true 'jets' in your spa wall. This is dependent on how your builder plumbed it and how many pumps you have. If you only have one pump, then there are no 'jets' in the formal sense. Just regular returns as Toxo referenced.
As has been suggested by several, the only thing that would create the commotion you dislike is if your Intelliflo is running at a high RPM and/or the blower is aerating your return flow.
EDIT: weirdly, the thread was much shorter until after I posted; then suddenly two extra days of posts showed up. My comment is less relevant than before. Apologies.
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