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Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

OMG, that made my head hurt :) What I took away from it though is that I may be getting a high PH reading due to the high FC. With that in mind, then maybe it makes sense to put in 1 more box tonight. Pool math says to go from 7.2 to 7.5 I need 1.3 boxes. So 1 box sounds like an ok place to go with. I am now thinking to go ahead and do it. I wont get much of a FC reduction or at least I don't think so. It is almost a full moon so maybe that will have some influence. :)
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Also, I was thinking that tomorrow night I should try an OCLT test. I am not really sure I need to slam. Water is very clear, haven't tried the quarter deal yet but will tomorrow, I have no CC, haven't ever had any. So need to check if I am really burning chlorine. I did test tonight when the pool was in shade so will do another FC test first thing in the morning and see what that tells us. There is no visible algae in the pool hasn't been for several days. So the real question is, can I pass an OCLT. Does that make sense?
 
Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

LOL Yes, that's what I was trying to stress in comment #119. So that's why I sent the link to try to ensure you were understanding what could be happening. So in that case you might want to flip the quarter and chose heads or tails to know whether you actually need to add more borax, or not. lol Just kidding. But that's why it's difficult to adjust pH at a FC above 10ppm.

How much Borax have you added so far?

If it were me, I think I would personally let it ride for the night, continue with aeration, check it early AM, and see where your FC, and pH readings are at that point then decide from there. Because the FC could drop to 10ppm tonight? It doesn't take long to add and check so lets see if the FC will come down to us at least a little closer to where we want it to be. Every little bit helps you get closer to the appropriate level so less chance of false high reading or True high pH levels etc.


As far as the OCLT you can try it anytime, the quarter test is Not one of the Criteria to meet for passing it, it's just something some of the members suggests to prove how clear a clean pool gets. As far as the OCLT with your high CYA it will be hard to tell if it is a true pass or not because your FC is dropping so slowly anyway. Your CC has been remaining at 0, so that's promising that what you've done thus far has killed any algae that was present. So lets work on the pH, CYA issues 1st, and then you can check for a true pass on OCLT.

I hope this helps.
 
Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

Here's something I worked on last night to try to help ensure the best comfortable, and safest level for you, and your swimmers.
(Note: These are just estimates as "truly accurate" pH readings may be effected because of the high FC levels above 10ppm. I attempted to take into account for possible high false readings, possible true high pH levels, in order to land you in the best possible safe/ideal comfort ranges).

SO TRY THIS:

If AM pH reading is 7.2ppm -add 76 ounces = 1 box of Borax. This should put you close to 7.4 ppm.

If AM pH reading is 7.3 ppm-Add 76 ounces=1 box of Borax. This should put you close to 7.6 ppm

If AM pH reading is 7.4 ppm- Add 38 ounces = 1/2 box of Borax. This should put you between 7.5 ppm and 7.6 ppm.
(I'm having you add here Just incase the reading is reading a false high to ensure swimmer comfort range).

If AM pH reading is 7.5ppm- Add NO BORAX, and keep your fingers crossed that I calculated using Pool Math correctly LOL. (Just kidding, lol kind of :neutral:).

Also please let me know how close it hits to the estimated levels because attempting to adjust pH with an over 10ppm FC level isn't something we generally do, or recommend, so I want to see how close my calculations get you to the level I estimated it would by taking into account all the factors that could alter the true reading, and then having you adjust accordingly.

Have a wonderful day, and enjoy your pool party. :)
 
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This mornings results.
FC 13.2
PH 7.2
TA 90
So technically I passed the OCLT. But, you said with high CYA that wouldn't be valid. Why wouldn't it be valid? I think I should still have just as much FC at my target level as any other CYA reading and I will still burn FC if there was something to disinfect? Just not following the logic.

And I played with Pool Math too and came to the same conclusion as you, so off I go to add another box of borax.
Have a great morning.
 
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High CYA will not change your OCLT results. Your results are valid and you passed. Nice job!

Now let your FC come down to 9 and run a full set of tests. No need to run any tests other than FC until FC gets to 9.

You are learning and applying what you have learned! It is so nice to see someone who gets it!

Kim
 
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Good Morning Mark,
Sounds good. I hope your pool party goes well.
On the OCLT portion I didn't say it "won't be valid". I said it will be hard to tell because with the slow drops in your FC numbers which is to be expected with your high CYA level, and is what you are seeing during the day already, we would expect to see the same, or less overnight drop as well. So it would basically rule that overnight aspect out because of the slow daytime drops was showing pass there as well, so we'd expect nothing less than pass overnight as well. I hope this helps, I was just trying to ensure you got it all killed out, which I suspect you have :). Anyway you've done a great job. You should be proud. Have fun at your pool party, and have a wonderful day.
 
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ok, I follow you now. Just checked it and it is 7.4. So the question is with the high FC and knowing it will measure at least 1 point high, should I put in the other box? In theory that would put at a test result of 7.6 but actual at 7.5
The pool looks great.
 
Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

I would hold off as you have the PH in the "normal" zone where you are now.

Wait until you can test it with the FC at 9. We will go from there.

That IS a very pretty pool!

Kim
 

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Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

Pool Party, was a huge success !! See pic below. Thank you Crackerjack4u for all of your guidance and hand holding, couldn't have done it without you.
I also got to use Astro (my Nautilus Plus) for the first time. One of my daughters lost a earring in the pool, found the front but couldn't find the back. So gave Astro a try and he found it. I vacuumed the pool this morning but he picked up a bunch of stuff, including a ton of sand.
Test results after the party
FC 12 (.5 test)
CC 0
PH 7.4
TA 90
So my thinking is to hold tight until I get to a FC 10 and see where the PH goes and adjust. Will also for now maintain an FC Target of 9 with my CYA of 80 until I am ready to do another drain and fill.
Thanks all

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Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

Hi Mark,
YW, I was happy to help. The plan sounds good. My babies are in from MD, about 12 hours away, so we also all spent the day in the pool. :) I am so glad to hear the pool party went well, and by the pic it looks like everyone had a blast. I agree the pool looks awesome. All your hard work has finally paid off, and the proof is in the pic. :) Enjoy your beautiful clean pool, and have a nice night. :)
 
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I would wait to work on PH until FC gets to 10ppm. 7.2 to 7.8 is a better target than 7.0 to 8.0. TA at 90 is fine. Keep your PH in range and let the TA go where it wants to until your PH stabilizes and reaches equilibrium with the TA.

Congrats on the :paddle:
 
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Alwayswantedapool said:
Pool Party, was a huge success !! See pic below. Thank you Crackerjack4u for all of your guidance and hand holding, couldn't have done it without you.
I also got to use Astro (my Nautilus Plus) for the first time. One of my daughters lost a earring in the pool, found the front but couldn't find the back. So gave Astro a try and he found it. I vacuumed the pool this morning but he picked up a bunch of stuff, including a ton of sand.
Test results after the party
FC 12 (.5 test)
CC 0
PH 7.4
TA 90
So my thinking is to hold tight until I get to a FC 10 and see where the PH goes and adjust. Will also for now maintain an FC Target of 9 with my CYA of 80 until I am ready to do another drain and fill.
Thanks all

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I skimmed back throug the thread. Didn't see anything about your sand filter. Do you know how all the sand got in the pool?
 
Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

Hi PAGirl, funny you should ask about the sand, last night when I cleaned the Nautilus and saw the sand I thought, wonder where the sand came from, even mentioned it to one of my daughters. Then the this morning I checked the pressure on the filter and had to back flush and I had my duh moment, or maybe it is a senior moment, they run together anymore.
Anyway, yea, filter would be a potential, but first, I way over exaggerated how much sand was in the filter, it was really probably no more then 4 - 5 heaping tablespoons of sand, so not that much. On top of that, the previous owners really didn't take care of the pool, if it got vacuumed then it was manually I have doubts on how often that happened. So my thought is over the past year or more, the sand has probably accumulated. So not a concern at the moment but will monitor to see if I am still picking up sand but expect it is the result of year(s) of neglect.

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Thought I would mention a funny story, so we had the pool party and we all waited and jumped in the pool at the same time to christen the pool.

Immediately after that, I broke out my box of magic erasers and rags and we all cleaned the top railing around the pool :) It was all chalky and would get on your hands and drip in the pool, with the 8 of us, only took a few minutes to get it all clean.
The only thing that didn't come off were the black water lines on the fiberglass steps. I guess just work on the some more with the magic erasers to see if it will come off over time.
Fun time plus a cleaner pool. Figured you guys would appreciate that story.
 
Re: Bought a Pool and it came with a houses.

Lol. Something to keep an eye out for, just in case. I get a little in my pool from time to time, leftover sand from the pool installation. If the cover gets thrown over the side of the pool, it puts a little in when the cover is replaced.

You should be able to kick back soon and enjoy your pool with no worries
 
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LOL on the pool christening, AND the help recruitment. Go You!! Just think about it, it's not every day they get to swim in a pool that is THAT Clear, clean, and that the water doesn't feel like "chemical soup."

Humm, come to think of it, your pool IS in such excellent condition now that you could have probably gotten away with charging admission too lol.

Well done, Mark. You should be very proud. Have a wonderful night. :)
 

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