New Black and Decker vs pump

alee59

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Jun 29, 2019
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gadsden al
Hi everyone, got a quick ?. I just purchased a 1.5 hp b&d vs pump. I have a aquaplus system with T15 salt cell and was wondering if i should keep it connected to the relay setup of my old single speed pump or just run power to pump from the Gcif breaker. Also bought the automation module, has anyone used this setup yet on their equipment? Thanks in advance.
 
Hi everyone, got a quick ?. I just purchased a 1.5 hp b&d vs pump. I have a aquaplus system with T15 salt cell and was wondering if i should keep it connected to the relay setup of my old single speed pump or just run power to pump from the Gcif breaker. Also bought the automation module, has anyone used this setup yet on their equipment? Thanks in advance.
There are a lot of ways to hook it up. In any of them you'll want to be sure you have the salt system run off the line side of the pump relay so you can't power it accidentally when the pump is off. I switched to a 3rd party vs pump that had several digital inputs that made for very simple use of the speeds for different modes such as when I had a valve open that diverts water to the roof or when the gas pool heater was on and so on. I'm not sure if this pump has digital inputs or an interface board that will allow communication with your Hayward automation. We also have some experts here that run the pump 24/7 and run the swg at very low power and adjust run time on the swg with their automation. There really are a LOT of options once you go vs. What model is it?

Congrats on going vs and I hope this is helpful!

Chris
 
There are a lot of ways to hook it up. In any of them you'll want to be sure you have the salt system run off the line side of the pump relay so you can't power it accidentally when the pump is off. I switched to a 3rd party vs pump that had several digital inputs that made for very simple use of the speeds for different modes such as when I had a valve open that diverts water to the roof or when the gas pool heater was on and so on. I'm not sure if this pump has digital inputs or an interface board that will allow communication with your Hayward automation. We also have some experts here that run the pump 24/7 and run the swg at very low power and adjust run time on the swg with their automation. There really are a LOT of options once you go vs. What model is it?

Congrats on going vs and I hope this is helpful!

Chris
Most VSP need to be on the line side. Line side of relay is always powered (on). SWG needs to be on load side to be switched on and off.
 
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That's great! There are many, many ways to schedule. Here's the process I went through:

First set your speeds
  • Set maximum speed as "Speed 1".
  • Next set the speed needed for closing your swg flow switch (usually ~1700 rpm) as "Speed 2"
  • Set the minimum flow speed that just barely keeps positive flow (usually around 500 rpm) as "Speed 3"
Now set your first pass settings
  • Set Speed 1 for about 4 hrs. This is the minimum time to skim and remove debris from your pool. It varies a LOT by pool but this is a good starting point.
  • Add sufficient time at Speed 2 so that you can run the swg in addition to Speed 1 so your total FC added to the pool is about 3 ppm.
  • Add any additional time at Speed 3 needed for your personal preferences such as time for spillover or other features.
Iterate to Tweak Settings
  • Monitor FC daily to see the trend in FC. Adjust runtime up or down .2 -.3 ppm per day no more than every other day UNLESS FC is below minimum target for your CYA level. If that happens add liquid chlorine to bring FC up to max target. Then continue adjusting over next day or two.
  • After FC is "fairly stable" let it run for a week or two. FC can cycle a few ppm above target and down to target. If you try to target exact requirement and adjust to this every day you will go nuts and the pool will go out of control. The idea is to let it cycle down to target and a few ppm above.
  • After a few weeks if you prefer to tighten the cycle you can adjust run time or % power down slightly. I found setting % power at 40% gave me run times I could manage with a daily cycle that worked great for the first 3 years. Run time only needed to be adjusted two or three times per year.
There are literally millions of different combinations that work for people with different pools, usages, weather, and personal preferences. We have experts on here that run their vs pump on low 24/7 and just adjust swg run time periodically. May be worth a try for you. Our experts can be a little "weird" but they're all very, very smart!

I hope this is helpful.

Chris
 
a,

That's great! There are many, many ways to schedule. Here's the process I went through:

First set your speeds
  • Set maximum speed as "Speed 1".
  • Next set the speed needed for closing your swg flow switch (usually ~1700 rpm) as "Speed 2"
  • Set the minimum flow speed that just barely keeps positive flow (usually around 500 rpm) as "Speed 3"
Now set your first pass settings
  • Set Speed 1 for about 4 hrs. This is the minimum time to skim and remove debris from your pool. It varies a LOT by pool but this is a good starting point.
  • Add sufficient time at Speed 2 so that you can run the swg in addition to Speed 1 so your total FC added to the pool is about 3 ppm.
  • Add any additional time at Speed 3 needed for your personal preferences such as time for spillover or other features.
Iterate to Tweak Settings
  • Monitor FC daily to see the trend in FC. Adjust runtime up or down .2 -.3 ppm per day no more than every other day UNLESS FC is below minimum target for your CYA level. If that happens add liquid chlorine to bring FC up to max target. Then continue adjusting over next day or two.
  • After FC is "fairly stable" let it run for a week or two. FC can cycle a few ppm above target and down to target. If you try to target exact requirement and adjust to this every day you will go nuts and the pool will go out of control. The idea is to let it cycle down to target and a few ppm above.
  • After a few weeks if you prefer to tighten the cycle you can adjust run time or % power down slightly. I found setting % power at 40% gave me run times I could manage with a daily cycle that worked great for the first 3 years. Run time only needed to be adjusted two or three times per year.
There are literally millions of different combinations that work for people with different pools, usages, weather, and personal preferences. We have experts on here that run their vs pump on low 24/7 and just adjust swg run time periodically. May be worth a try for you. Our experts can be a little "weird" but they're all very, very smart!

I hope this is helpful.

Chris
Chris thanks so much, this is very helpful. Our first variable speed pump and so far like the quietness of the pump.
 
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