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I don't know a lot about Hayward controls, but a buddy of mine has a Hayward system and his Hayward actuators (don't know the model) definitely actuate 180 degrees. They should be adjustable.

--Jeff
 
mknauss said:
Yes. There is a chance the valve may have a stop if they installed it wrong. But those can be removed.
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I saw him removing and replacing some sort of plastic collars on the shaft of the actuator but the way it currently operates, it only goes 90 degrees and stops if done with the control. I have to switch the toggle switches to complete the rotation. I don't have much confidence in this guy.
 
Read the link above I posted. The cams in the actuator are what adjust the rotation to the limit switches.
 
There are six pipes on the return side of your plumbing. It is builder malpractice to not label each pipe with its function.

The return valve and actuator is hidden under the pipe. Post some clearer pictures of it.

The actuator can turn 180 degrees and the valve stops can be adjusted if necessary.

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Turbo1Ton said:
His plumber just found out that aeration raises pH. Let's not push him too hard all at once.
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I told him I read it here but I didn't know the scientific reason. He asked where this site was at because there was different soil types/weather conditions wherever someone lived, etc. I just couldn't imagine that everyone would be OK with a spa spilling over 24/7. I'd go manual before I'd put up with that all the time. Happy to hear that it's just a case of incompetence on the part of my electrician/plumber.
 
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klanel said:
electrician/plumber.
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Complete tangent, sorry. Just wanted to share.

I had a back side neighbor one time that was, let's be nice and say, not all there. I was having a house built, and during construction, noticed that he had set fence posts along our adjoining line. Because of this, I had my builder include a fence along the other lines that there were no fences, because I made the (poor) assumption that he would be finishing the fence within the next 3-4 months before our home was complete. I had dogs and wanted it move in ready for them. We moved in several months later, and the fence around our property was complete with the exception of his side. We didn't live close so only made it out maybe once a week to check on things, and had never had the chance to talk to him. That morning that I was moving in, he came out to talk to me. He told me the story of the fence. He was unfortunately out of work, and his direct neighbor (caddy corner to me) was going to have a fence put in and had talked to him about splitting the cost. Since he was out of work, he agreed to do the labor if she would provide materials. He informed me that he was able to get enough together to get posts for our (mine and his) side of the fence at the same time, and he had a mason friend who came and set all the posts for both sides, because who better to set fence posts than a mason? He then installed all of the stringers and pickets. He was very eager to tell me how he had leveled and plumbed every picket. What he did not do was run a string line to keep the tops a consistent height. So I politely told him, sure we could figure something out. Knowing I was going to do it myself because I couldn't stand looking at a fence top that was not straight.

A week later, I went out and measured all of the centers of the fence posts and they were all over the place as far as dimensions. 8'-2", 8'-6", 8-0", 8'-3", you get the point. It was at that point I said to myself "Who better to set fence posts than a mason? I dunno... A fence builder???" I had to buy 10' 2x4's for the stringers because the mason didn't know how to measure between the holes apparently.

I tell that story and I like to throw in the quip "who better to install a faucet, the electrician?" Now I can't use that one anymore. Gonna have to say the painter or something else. :ROFLMAO:

Not helpful at all to your plight but thanks for letting me tell that.

--Jeff
 
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I told him I read it here but I didn't know the scientific reason. He asked where this site was at because there was different soil types/weather conditions wherever someone lived, etc. I just couldn't imagine that everyone would be OK with a spa spilling over 24/7. I'd go manual before I'd put up with that all the time. Happy to hear that it's just a case of incompetence on the part of my electrician/plumber.
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I have the same system as you, I am able to put the spa into spliiover mode 2X a day for an hour.
 
jonnyd91 said:
I have the same system as you, I am able to put the spa into spliiover mode 2X a day for an hour.
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Don't mean to continue asking the same questions but I just spoke to the builder about the way the 3 way valve and actuator are working and I don't think he is in agreement about the possibilities. He is supposed to come today and I want to make sure that what I posted is clear so I have the correct information when he comes.

I have a three way valve with pump supply in the center, spa return on one end and pool return on the other. The valve rotates 180 degrees, Pointed down, the spa returns are closed. Pointed up, the pool returns are closed. And in between variable between pool and spa. There is a GVA-24 Hayward valve installed.

Prior to the actuator, I would manually move it around, typically setting the spa off unless we wanted the spillover for effect or for refreshing the water which I would do a couple of times/day.

Plumber added the actuator, programmed the control and says I will no longer be able to have the spillover AND pool features going at once. That either I will be in the pool mode (with returns active to both spa and pool) or spa mode (with returns shut off to pool and fully open to the spa) So, no matter what mode, the spa returns would always be on.

So the actuator has full 180 degree motion using the switch but not from the control. Plumber said I would have to flip the toggle to go past where it stops from the control. Builder on the phone seems to agree with the plumber.

If I was already fully understood, sorry for continuing to ask and ask. I don't much time to sort anything out before the builder comes and just want to make sure what I am wanting and think yall are saying is possible can be done. And I just saw some prior posts that I did not realize were there. Will look at them later when I have more time.

And Jeff, thanks for sharing your post. I don't claim to have any expertise in this field but some issues could be easily avoided if there was more thought and oversight.
 
The OmniPL, if I read everything correctly, will simply turn the valve from stop to stop, be that 45 degree turn, 90 degree turn or 180 degree (or whatever rotation you have the cam stops set for). The OmniPL cannot stop in the middle. IE - if the stops on the valve are set for 180 degree sweep, the OmniPL cannot then stop at 90 degree sweep.

So based on that and how you are plumbed, and your desire to only have spillover sometimes, but not always, you may have to do it manually. Pool mode will move the valve to one limit stop, Spa mode will move to the other limit spot.

-Tom
 
tommelton said:
So based on that and how you are plumbed, and your desire to only have spillover sometimes, but not always, you may have to do it manually. Pool mode will move the valve to one limit stop, Spa mode will move to the other limit spot.
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It does not need to be done manually.

There is third mode that can be enabled - SPILLOVER mode.
  • POOL mode suctions from the pool and returns to the pool
  • SPA mode suctions from the spa and returns to the spa.
  • SPILLOVER mode suctions from the pool and returns to the spa
 
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