New Pool Need Guidance with chemicals

I would not go below 7.5. No need to.
so i put acid in to lower PH to 7.5 it went down to 7.6ish for a day and then back to 7.8 for last two days. so far its been stable at 7.8 and been that way for a month . should i put more acid in to lower to 7.5 or am i chasing a # and my pool likes to be at 7.8 ?
 
sure i will do an OCLT . Thank you
hello Marty i have been trying to get this CYA to 60-70 having hard time. last two - three weeks i have put in stabalizer (1.35lb) each time via sock method but my cya is still showing at about 50 . i am losing about 2-3 FC per day and i have to keep the swg at 50% for atleast 10-11hrs to stay at about 7ppm range. do you why CYA is not going up ? do you think i should leave it alone and just deal with 2-3 fc loss per day .this is the stabilizer i am using. thank you
 
The 1.35 lb of stabilizer is adding 10 ppm CYA. So after two of them, you should have seen that in your testing.

I would just maintain what is current and test CYA again in a week or so. The FC loss you are seeing is right in the normal range.
 
The 1.35 lb of stabilizer is adding 10 ppm CYA. So after two of them, you should have seen that in your testing.

I would just maintain what is current and test CYA again in a week or so. The FC loss you are seeing is right in the normal range.
great thank you
 
great thank you
The 1.35 lb of stabilizer is adding 10 ppm CYA. So after two of them, you should have seen that in your testing.

I would just maintain what is current and test CYA again in a week or so. The FC loss you are seeing is right in the normal range.
had lot of rain because of Elsa had to drain the pool about 4 inches . did salt test and showing around 2800. hayward t-cell is showing around 2800 as well. should i be adding more salt to get it up to 3200 level? or wait for tcell to give low salt message?
 
If the SWCG is happy, I would wait a couple days and see if any additional mixing changes the readout. Then add some salt to get back closer to 3200 ppm. You need a buffer because it rains there.
 
If the SWCG is happy, I would wait a couple days and see if any additional mixing changes the readout. Then add some salt to get back closer to 3200 ppm. You need a buffer because it rains there.
Hello Marty its been a great season, my PB is coming Wednesday to install the cover and close the pool. Since he is including the pool closing for free with the new cover install i am letting him do it this year plus i want to see how everything is done. However i don't want him adding any chemicals . Tomorrow my plan is to first take PH between 7.4 - 7.6 (its been 7.8 whole season)then get the FC TO SLAM levels, towards the evening add POLYquat 60 (actually ordered this one but looks to be same as polyquat 60) and let the pump run all night so its ready for Wednesday morning. The reason i am adding polyquat 60 is because pool water is around 62-64 degrees . I know i am suppose to wait till its below 60 but PB wants to install the cover, he is very busy. I delayed it as long as could but i am also getting annoyed i am surrounded by trees and they are dropping leaves like crazy. i am cleaning pool and skimmer 4 times a day. so what you think of my plan should i change anything or do anything differently ?
 

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I know i am suppose to wait till its below 60 but PB wants to install the cover, he is very busy. I delayed it as long as could but i am also getting annoyed i am surrounded by trees and they are dropping leaves like crazy
You have to make that call every year and you’ll second guess it every last year. I’m sure you know many people who closed on Labor Day weekend, or shortly after. You did good stretching it this far. (y)
so what you think of my plan should i change anything or do anything differently
I think you’re great. We are pretty much split 50/50 with polyquat and nobody is wrong. Your Slam FC will eat it and leave you with less of both. But then again you’ll have some polyquat left and some FC so maybe the two combined are better than just one. It’s complicated. Lol.
 
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You have to make that call every year and you’ll second guess it every last year. I’m sure you know many people who closed on Labor Day weekend, or shortly after. You did good stretching it this far. (y)

I think you’re great. We are pretty much split 50/50 with polyquat and nobody is wrong. Your Slam FC will eat it and leave you with less of both. But then again you’ll have some polyquat left and some FC so maybe the two combined are better than just one. It’s complicated. Lol.
thanks @Newdude
 
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You have to make that call every year and you’ll second guess it every last year. I’m sure you know many people who closed on Labor Day weekend, or shortly after. You did good stretching it this far. (y)

I think you’re great. We are pretty much split 50/50 with polyquat and nobody is wrong. Your Slam FC will eat it and leave you with less of both. But then again you’ll have some polyquat left and some FC so maybe the two combined are better than just one. It’s complicated. Lol.
I am having second thoughts about using polyquat 60. I have been reading lot of post regarding it, so if i take it to SLAM level which is 24ppm for me according to lot of post polyquat will eat lot of the FC. my water temp is 62 today and i have to close tomorrow. plan is to open late march or mid April depending how winter goes. should i just bring it to SLAM fc of 24 and leave it alone? btw knock on wood no alegie this year. i was on top of my chem levels . poolmath up to date , cover i am getting installed is smartmesh from merlin.
 
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April depending how winter goes. should i just bring it to SLAM fc of 24 and leave it
I, personally, am in the ‘it’s counter productive enough to not be worth it’ camp. Once covered your daily loss will be next to nothing. 1/2 FC a day maybe (assuming no algae(y)). So that would ‘buy’ you 48 days in theory until it’s gone and we will be plenty cold by then. Then your mission is to open it before the water warms up to 60.

If you really REALLY want to sleep like a baby about it, plan to test and add in Dec before it freezes. You can pop 6 ft of the shallow end in a matter of minutes and reSLAM it. Brush it around good as it’s heavier than water and you don’t want it puddling. (Also be aware of where you brush it to…. You don’t want half a puddle there either). But in a matter of an hour you will be covered for the rest of the winter just in case.
 
I, personally, am in the ‘it’s counter productive enough to not be worth it’ camp. Once covered your daily loss will be next to nothing. 1/2 FC a day maybe (assuming no algae(y)). So that would ‘buy’ you 48 days in theory until it’s gone and we will be plenty cold by then. Then your mission is to open it before the water warms up to 60.

If you really REALLY want to sleep like a baby about it, plan to test and add in Dec before it freezes. You can pop 6 ft of the shallow end in a matter of minutes and reSLAM it. Brush it around good as it’s heavier than water and you don’t want it puddling. (Also be aware of where you brush it to…. You don’t want half a puddle there either). But in a matter of an hour you will be covered for the rest of the winter just in case.
i like that idea. thanks again.
 
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I, personally, am in the ‘it’s counter productive enough to not be worth it’ camp. Once covered your daily loss will be next to nothing. 1/2 FC a day maybe (assuming no algae(y)). So that would ‘buy’ you 48 days in theory until it’s gone and we will be plenty cold by then. Then your mission is to open it before the water warms up to 60.

If you really REALLY want to sleep like a baby about it, plan to test and add in Dec before it freezes. You can pop 6 ft of the shallow end in a matter of minutes and reSLAM it. Brush it around good as it’s heavier than water and you don’t want it puddling. (Also be aware of where you brush it to…. You don’t want half a puddle there either). But in a matter of an hour you will be covered for the rest of the winter just in case.
GM @Newdude . Do you think I should go little over SLAM level. currently my CYA IS 60 SO MY slam LEVEL IS 24. I have reached FC of 24 . my question is should I go little over or should i leave it at 24?
 
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Nope. Accidents may happen during a Slam without harm, but you never want to try to on purpose.

Once covered and the UV is all but gone it will last quite some time.
 
I, personally, am in the ‘it’s counter productive enough to not be worth it’ camp. Once covered your daily loss will be next to nothing. 1/2 FC a day maybe (assuming no algae(y)). So that would ‘buy’ you 48 days in theory until it’s gone and we will be plenty cold by then. Then your mission is to open it before the water warms up to 60.

If you really REALLY want to sleep like a baby about it, plan to test and add in Dec before it freezes. You can pop 6 ft of the shallow end in a matter of minutes and reSLAM it. Brush it around good as it’s heavier than water and you don’t want it puddling. (Also be aware of where you brush it to…. You don’t want half a puddle there either). But in a matter of an hour you will be covered for the rest of the winter just in case.
so we getting hit with lot of rain and i just peeked under the cover, my water level is very high and more rain to come. i do have a pump setup on the steps which i can turn on anytime. so if i am constantly removing water through out the winter do i need to test and add LC maybe once a month? every time i am draining i am removing cya and LC. i can easily peel cover at one corner by the steps in shallow end.
 
do i need to test and add LC maybe once a month?
It certainly won’t hurt and if you don’t need anything when you test, the peace of mind alone was worth your effort. Brush up the testing area good before, so you aren’t testing untreated rain water.

I started off draining inches at a time and eventually that turned to feet to buy more time in between. We will get about 3 ft total of rain and melted snow in the off season. It’s your choice if you want to drain 3 inches 12 times, 18 inches twice, etc.
 

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