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[Charity1981]

Okay, great! Do I test the CC now? I’m going to head out shortly to clean the filter/pump like you said. How often should I do this?

 

[Charity1981]

Even if you failed the CCs and clarity test that’s GREAT news as it means the FC had less to kill. Now. Prepare yourself mentally because sometimes brushing stirs and exposes more algae and you end up doing ‘worse’ tomorrow or a couple days from now. Don’t get bummed about it. It’s still progress.

Sounds good. I’m cleaning and brushing today. Now I should continue to check FC every couple hrs and maintain at 12, correct?

 

[PoolStored]

Continue FC check and maintain 12 until you have met all three criteria.

Yes, you can do CC test now, but not necessary because your pool is not clear. Save the reagents. Start your CC test when the pool clears.

Re-read my method for cleaning the filter. You will want to note the pressure after you clean this morning. When the pressure rises 15 PSI over the clean pressure, then clean again.

 

[Newdude]

You keep the FC up just in case now as you may expose new algae once you brush off old bio films protecting it. You still maintain slam level but more often than not it holds.

 

[koffey]

Prepare yourself mentally because sometimes brushing stirs and exposes more algae and you end up doing ‘worse’ tomorrow or a couple days from now. Don’t get bummed about it.

This was my experience as well. Also, keep the ladder out of the pool when you are cleaning and when you get out, take it out again and clean the ladder. I had green deposits in my pool after putting the ladder in and leaving it there. Took the rubber nubs off and there was stagnate water.

Bravo on getting this far OP. Good job.

 

[NowintersinAZ]

You have two pumps and filters right?

You have two suction ports right?

Do you have enough hoses to hook up both and run them? Twice the filtration couldn't hurt. With one return jet you could tie the return from the second pump to the railing of the pool for the return. just a thought.

 

[Charity1981]

Continue FC check and maintain 12 until you have met all three criteria.

Yes, you can do CC test now, but not necessary because your pool is not clear. Save the reagents. Start your CC test when the pool clears.

Re-read my method for cleaning the filter. You will want to note the pressure after you clean this morning. When the pressure rises 15 PSI over the clean pressure, then clean again.

Will do! It was late last night lol

 

[Charity1981]

You have two pumps and filters right?

You have two suction ports right?

Do you have enough hoses to hook up both and run them? Twice the filtration couldn't hurt. With one return jet you could tie the return from the second pump to the railing of the pool for the return. just a thought.

Yes we do. I can ask my hubby when he gets home from work. Great idea!

 

[Charity1981]

This was my experience as well. Also, keep the ladder out of the pool when you are cleaning and when you get out, take it out again and clean the ladder. I had green deposits in my pool after putting the ladder in and leaving it there. Took the rubber nubs off and there was stagnate water.

Bravo on getting this far OP. Good job.

I did remove the ladder the other day. I left it in last night but I will remove when not in use.

 

[Charity1981]

Ok, so assuming that replacing the filter/pump isn't an option, here is my recommendation:

1) Read the manual on the Pump/Filter --> Manual on Filter/Pump page 14. the following is a reprint from the instructions.
2) When you have the time, do the procedure on page 14.
a) Stop the pump.
b) Move the handle to "Backwash."
c) Turn on the pump and run until the water is clear (not perfect, say 80% clearer than the cloudiest you see). Might be 30 seconds to 3 minutes +/-
d) Turn off pump.
e) Turn the handle to "Rinse." Run again until you see it run a bit clear (80% better), likely no longer than 30 seconds to 2 minutes.
f) Turn off the pump.
g) turn the handle to "Filter"
h) turn on the pump
i) NOTE THE PRESSURE.
j) When the filter pressure is 15 PSI higher than reading from i), do this procedure again.
k) replace water as needed.

Follow this procedure and you will clean the filter as often as necessary. Any more backwashing is unnecessary. Let the filter do the job!

This process is the best you can do with the filter you have. Keep the SLAM up.

Okay so I’m out here now and just followed your instructions. After I switched to backwash and turned back on, a lot more water came out with sand. Is that correct? The other thing is I have no “rinse” so I put into position where the white block is because it continued to put out water, just not as much as backwash. Then went to filter and turned on. PSI is at 5 currently.
In the pic, backwash is covered and the white space I used is between filter and recirculate.

 

[Charity1981]

And the pool looked better this afternoon. I’ve had a busy day so besides a quick FC check, I haven’t been able to mess with it much until now. I brushed the dust once again and the pool looked more blue than it has in wks! And then of course the dust seemed to mix in and turned more blue-green. I then followed advice above, then raised FC.

 

[PoolStored]

Okay so I’m out here now and just followed your instructions. After I switched to backwash and turned back on, a lot more water came out with sand. Is that correct? The other thing is I have no “rinse” so I put into position where the white block is because it continued to put out water, just not as much as backwash. Then went to filter and turned on. PSI is at 5 currently.
In the pic, backwash is covered and the white space I used is between filter and recirculate.

I think you did great.

How much sand came out? Did you originally fill the filter with sand per the instructions?

Though the instructions indicate a Rinse, it may not have a "rinse," and I'm not sure that the white space is actually rinse. You likely didn't hurt anything and you got the backwash done.

Now...do NOT backwash again...until --> Usually the recommendation is not to backwash again until the pressure rises 25%. In your case that would be about 6.5psi. The instruction manual indicates 14.5 to 21 PSI HIGHER than the reading right after backwashing. I think you should follow the manual. Leave the filter alone until the PSI gets between 18 and 20. Then backwash again.

 

[Charity1981]

I think you did great.

How much sand came out? Did you originally fill the filter with sand per the instructions?

Though the instructions indicate a Rinse, it may not have a "rinse," and I'm not sure that the white space is actually rinse. You likely didn't hurt anything and you got the backwash done.

Now...do NOT backwash again...until --> Usually the recommendation is not to backwash again until the pressure rises 25%. In your case that would be about 6.5psi. The instruction manual indicates 14.5 to 21 PSI HIGHER than the reading right after backwashing. I think you should follow the manual. Leave the filter alone until the PSI gets between 18 and 20. Then backwash again.

Thanks!
it wasn’t a lot of sand, just some as I was putting a clear cup to check the color. I did not fill it but he did read instruction prior to doing it.
I’m am going to screenshot to save and will do it again when needed. Thank you very much!

 

[Charity1981]

You have two pumps and filters right?

You have two suction ports right?

Do you have enough hoses to hook up both and run them? Twice the filtration couldn't hurt. With one return jet you could tie the return from the second pump to the railing of the pool for the return. just a thought.

Thank you for the tip. He is out there now getting them both going!

 

[NowintersinAZ]

Thank you for the tip. He is out there now getting them both going

You are very welcome

 

[MITBeta]

I just read through this whole thread and have to echo what Cuckoo says a few times above: run another CYA test. If you measured 40, whether practicing or not, your SLAM level should be 16.

 

[Charity1981]

I just read through this whole thread and have to echo what Cuckoo says a few times above: run another CYA test. If you measured 40, whether practicing or not, your SLAM level should be 16.

Here are my results this morn

ph 7.5
FC 13
Ch 300
Ta
Cya 50

I didn’t test cc. Accidentally tossed the water and I’m about halfway thru the bottle of 0871, so I will test that later this afternoon.
Pool is looking a little clearer this morn. Still have dust settled so I plan on trying to vacuum today. I haven’t done since Thursday eve but have been brushing and rinsing filter.

 

[Charity1981]

Here are my results this morn

ph 7.5
FC 13
Ch 300
Ta
Cya 50

I didn’t test cc. Accidentally tossed the water and I’m about halfway thru the bottle of 0871, so I will test that later this afternoon.
Pool is looking a little clearer this morn. Still have dust settled so I plan on trying to vacuum today. I haven’t done since Thursday eve but have been brushing and rinsing filter.

TA 160

 

[PoolStored]

GREAT JOB!

I can see improvement.

With CYA of 50, get your FC up to 20 and keep it there during SLAM.

Can't wait to see the end. You will be proud peacock!

You don't have to test CC until AFTER 1) the pool is clear AND 2) you pass the OCLT. So save the reagent until then!

Also, you don't have to test anything but FC during slam. Save the reagents. pH is inaccurate test at anything above 10.

You also don't care about the others at this point...now that you know CYA. And you don't have to test CYA again until after slam, and then only weekly. It degrades very slowly.

You Go!

 

[Newdude]

Also, you don't have to test anything but FC during slam. Save the reagents. pH is inaccurate test at anything above 10.

Exactly. No need for CCs or OCLTs until the water is clear.

But

You get a roundabout OCLT by testing to add before bed and again when you wake up.