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Bond beam repair
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6" is no problem, especially if there's rebar there to support it. You might have to do it in a couple passes though. I would make my own mix of Plastic cement and sand - 50:50 mix. It will be sticky so apply it in a manner so that you can shave off material, not necessarily trowel it into place.
Riverside 94 lb. Plastic Cement-100069997 - The Home Depot
This product is a blend of Portland cement, limestone and additives formulated for scratch and base coat in stucco applications. Plastic Cement is an air entrained Portland Cement with lime. This productwww.homedepot.com
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Is there any alternative to this plastic cement? I cannot find any near me at Lowe’s or Home Depot.
You sure they don't have it? That's a pretty common building material.
You could use mortar mix or pretty much any High PSI fine aggregate mix would be fine.
Jimmy is a lot closer to you, I bet he would know what you could find
You could use mortar mix or pretty much any High PSI fine aggregate mix would be fine.
Jimmy is a lot closer to you, I bet he would know what you could find
Unless they selling it under a different name, I am unable to find it. I can see the product online for HD and Lowe’s, but it’s not available in store or to order and have delivered to store. I called another building supply house with it on their website, and he then said the SKU from online didn’t bring anything up and he has never heard of it. Very strange.
Guy doing the plaster said he uses hydraulic cement, and he hasn’t heard of plastic cement either.
Hopefully Jimmy will chime in, I am willing to drive a bit to get the right stuff.
There's nothing special about plastic cement. It's portland cement with lime and a little clay added. Hydraulic cement would work too but it's pretty hard to work with
Mortar Mix - Type S
Mortar Mix - Type N
These seem to be the only two mortar mixes that are available from the two big box stores near me. If you know of something better, please let me know.
Would a just a Portland cement be applicable? I can find that as well.
I have also found Specmix Portland Lime and Sand
Mortar Mix - Type N
These seem to be the only two mortar mixes that are available from the two big box stores near me. If you know of something better, please let me know.
Would a just a Portland cement be applicable? I can find that as well.
I have also found Specmix Portland Lime and Sand
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I would use Type S before Type N but more cement would be better. Spec mix is just 3:1 sand and cement with a little lime. You might be better off mixing your own
Find a mason supply near you. Get plenty of plasticizer and use the highest strength concrete you can find bagged. Theres many 5000psi + mixes out there. The key to keeping strength in the mix is minimum water content. High strength mixes use pea gravel for aggregate. Low grade uses 3/4 stone. You can easily mix your own as bdavis stated.
Thank you both for replying. I have no problems mixing my own, I am just unfamiliar with all the different types of materials. I will look into finding a mason supply near me.
If I were to mix my own, what would be the exact parts needed? Is plasticizer and high strength concrete consisting of small gravel all I need?
Sorry for needing the hand holding, concrete mixtures are out of my realm.
If I were to mix my own, what would be the exact parts needed? Is plasticizer and high strength concrete consisting of small gravel all I need?
Sorry for needing the hand holding, concrete mixtures are out of my realm.
If we are talking just the beam repair then yes. For a DIY I would use concrete nails and just form it all. You can mix big batches in a rubbermaid garbage can. Do a little research on the web about plasticizer and how it works and what it does. Its brilliant stuff. You would obviously still need to prep and bond coat everything. Your gonna need a set of hands or two to be efficient
Sounds good. Thank you. I was hoping for the easier fix of not needing forms, but if that is what I have to do, then so be it. Will post updates when I get it done.
You can mix your own mortar and shape it by hand as bdavis laid out. It's just harder for a novice to have the right mix that's stiff enough to hold shape and then the touch to get the shape right. I do alot of concrete work so I'm a fan of making simple forms and doing a single pour theres little chance of things going wrong
I believe I feel pretty confident if I can just ensure I am getting the right product for the job. As long as I get something that is easy enough to form without hardening on me too quickly, I think I can handle it successfully. Luckily my pool only has 5-10' sections that I can do at one time if time is of the essence for the material. If I need forms, that is fine too, but again I think it just comes down to getting the right product. I have listed some available products below, the Cement All I was pointed to from a pool guy on YouTube, I just worry about the set time.
I have done some concrete work for a previous job in building agricultural buildings, as well as laying tile in the past, so I don't feel completely unfamiliar.
I called three mason supply companies in the area, and all of them have no clue what plastic cement is. They are probably thinking of the stuff you use for model airplanes or something. I have found some Lehigh Portland Lime Type S I can buy, but I don't feel that is the right stuff either.
Cement All
High strength Sakrete
High strength Sakrete 5000
Surface bonding cement
Type S Masonry cement
Mortar mix type s
Any of these products strike your fancy?
I have done some concrete work for a previous job in building agricultural buildings, as well as laying tile in the past, so I don't feel completely unfamiliar.
I called three mason supply companies in the area, and all of them have no clue what plastic cement is. They are probably thinking of the stuff you use for model airplanes or something. I have found some Lehigh Portland Lime Type S I can buy, but I don't feel that is the right stuff either.
Cement All
High strength Sakrete
High strength Sakrete 5000
Surface bonding cement
Type S Masonry cement
Mortar mix type s
Any of these products strike your fancy?
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- Jul 21, 2013
- 65,154
- Pool Size
- 35000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
This what is being discussed?
quikrete.com
Plastic Cement | QUIKRETE: Cement and Concrete Products
The QUIKRETE® Companies are the largest manufacturers of packaged concrete in the United States and an innovative leader in the commercial building and home improvement industries.
Riverside 94 lb. Plastic Cement-100069997 - The Home Depot
This product is a blend of Portland cement, limestone and additives formulated for scratch and base coat in stucco applications. Plastic Cement is an air entrained Portland Cement with lime. This product
www.homedepot.com
This what is being discussed?
Plastic Cement | QUIKRETE: Cement and Concrete Products
The QUIKRETE® Companies are the largest manufacturers of packaged concrete in the United States and an innovative leader in the commercial building and home improvement industries.
Riverside 94 lb. Plastic Cement-100069997 - The Home Depot
This product is a blend of Portland cement, limestone and additives formulated for scratch and base coat in stucco applications. Plastic Cement is an air entrained Portland Cement with lime. This productwww.homedepot.com
Correct. I am unable to find any plastic cement locally and looking for alternatives. I actually called the Quikrete factory in MD and was told they do not make that product.
- Jul 21, 2013
- 65,154
- Pool Size
- 35000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
Yeah, I just read the comments on the Home Depot product and July 2017 entry says:
Unfortunately, this 94 lb. Plastic Cement appears to be unavailable and is no longer in stock or available for purchase on Homedepot.com. The item will remain briefly on the website for customer reference, and the description will be updated with “Discontinued” if it has not been already.
Unfortunately, this 94 lb. Plastic Cement appears to be unavailable and is no longer in stock or available for purchase on Homedepot.com. The item will remain briefly on the website for customer reference, and the description will be updated with “Discontinued” if it has not been already.
I believe plastic cement is a west coast product. When I lived in California we used it for stuccoing. I now live in Texas and have never seen it at either the big box stores or masonry supply places.
Yeah, looking at different zip codes in the HD stock checker, there is none to be had in NJ, MD, VA, TN, WV. However, CA does have plenty of stock. I think it is like you say rcerf, its a stucco product which isn't relevant on the east coast either.
You can mix it by parts easily. For 5 10' sections i would personally form it if I was making the repair. Super easy and fast and I can leave the site with no worries or babysitting. Nothing fancy some thin plywood or whatever is laying around my yard this isn't pretty formwork.