Intellivale and intellicenter app

It is my understanding that functionality is not available yet. A software upgrade will be needed when it is available.
 
Gus,

You should still be able to turn them on or off with the app.. What you can't do yet is control the exact position they go to.. At this point they are either full on or full off.

Each valve should be assigned to a circuit and you just tell the app to turn on that circuit. As an example, if you have a waterfall that is controlled by a valve, then the app or IntelliCenter should have an icon named "Waterfall".. Clicking on the icon should turn the valve... and most likely adjust the pump's speed..

What is it exactly that you are trying to do? Has your IntelliCenter been programmed yet?

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
Trying to figures out how to control my intellivales through the intellicenter app. Is this possible? I can't find that option.
Or just be to many margaritas. Happy 5 Cinco de May??
GusGus

Yes, it is possible (not too many margaritas :)).

After adding the IntelliValves in the SETTINGS > OTHER EQUIPMENT > PANEL 1 - VALVES, you can then address those valves by creating FEATURE CIRCUITS for each valve. You can name those FEATURE CIRCUITS anything you like but you may need to experiment with naming conventions if you plan on using the Amazon Echo (Alexa) to control those IntelliValves.

It is a bit inaccurate to describe the functionality of the IntelliValve in just either full on or full off as it suggests that the valve can only be programmed in just Open or Closed positions. It is more accurate to describe it as - the IntelliValve can be programmed for a "Home" position and a "2nd" position. This is due to the fact that the IntelliValve's Home and 2nd positions can be programmed in any of 48 different valve positions. You actually CAN control the "exact position" of the IntelliValve (down to increments of 3.75 degrees between 0 and 180 degrees (positions 1-48). The "Home" position is where the IntelliValve (valve diverter) is typically positioned (programmed from 0 degrees to 180 degrees). The "2nd" position is the other position that the IntelliValve can be programmed (again, programmed from 0 degrees to 180 degrees).

When you create a FEATURE CIRCUIT to "actuate" the IntelliValve, the IntelliCenter moves it from it's "Home" position to it's 2nd position. It stays in that "2nd" position until that FEATURE CIRCUIT is turned off from either a "scheduled event", manually at the control panel, the Web-Client interface, the IntelliCenter app or an Alexa command.

This methodology for controlling the IntelliValve in only two (2) positions, is only applicable at the current time. Once Pentair releases the anticipated OTA update push, the IntelliValve is rumored to have five (5) user-defined preset positions that can be programmed into the IntelliValve and be controlled (probabably by use of IntelliCenter FEATURE CIRCUITS) by the user.

I hope this helps with your question.
Please feel free to either ping me or PM me if you have any further questions.
All-the-best...
r.
 
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r.

All actuators operate that way.. Standard actuators have to be adjusted mechanically while your IntelliValves are set electronically.. They still only run from one stop to the other stop.

You can "ping" me later, and say "I told you so", but I suspect the valves will wear out before Pentair makes the multi stop programming available... :mrgreen:

Jim R.
 
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Jimrahbe
Jim, thanks very much for your reply regarding the “standard” actuators and concern about the IntelliValve update. Just a few of my own comments in response.
All actuators operate that way.. Standard actuators have to be adjusted mechanically while your IntelliValves are set electronically.. They still only run from one stop to the other stop.
I agree but in the interest of full disclosure, it should be pointed out that there are some significant disadvantages with the “standard” mechanical valve actuators (JVA24, JVR2444, PE24VA, PE24RSVA, CVA-24, etc.), when compared to the Pentair IntelliValve. Some of which are detailed below as I discovered during my own valve actuator selection research and confirmed now with the experience gained from installing and using six of the Pentair IntelliValves.

1. The “standard” or traditional mechanical valve actuators require removing the actuator cover and adjusting upper and lower internal cam positions in order to define clockwise and counter-clockwise “stop points” that you referred to above. Nothing like that is required with the Pentair IntelliValve. Setting the “Home” and “2nd” positions with the IntelliValve is simplified considerably (All “push button”). This can result in a higher level of control of the valve diverter settings. In addition, if the IntelliValve is mounted correctly (let’s not go into that please :p), there is no possibility of valve diverter “dead-heading” which can occur with improper cam settings in the “standard” mechanical valve actuators.​
2. “Standard” or traditional mechanical valve actuators typically incorporate two or three seals (O-rings) which should be lubricated once a year and replaced over time as required. The IntelliValve does not require any type of periodic or “preventative” maintenance.​
3. “Standard” or traditional mechanical valve actuators typically allow for only 12 degree setting increments. The IntelliValve allows for a much more precise “3.75 degree increment scale”. This fact results in the achievement of four (4) times the control over valve flow rates.​

4. “Standard” or traditional mechanical valve actuators offer no real precise valve diverter position or orientation indications (other than just an embossed actuator handle). Whereas the IntelliValve offers exact diverter positioning information based on combinations of 24 LED indicator lights.​
You can "ping" me later, and say "I told you so", but I suspect the valves will wear out before Pentair makes the multi stop programming available... :mrgreen::Jim R.
I might have to do just that :mrgreen: . But I wanted to be sure that you weren’t onto something. :unsure:

So I contacted a Pentair Representative that I know regarding your suggestion that “multi-stop programming” as you call it (nice terminology BTW) may be on shall we say a “back burner” and not exactly a “priority”.

Some calls were made by the rep to the applicable product development team as well as engineering and software development and I received a reply to my inquiry from the rep.

I won’t go into a lot of detail but let’s just say that I’m convinced that this “feature” IS a priority and significant and detailed testing and development is “in progress” and applicable firmware/software releases are scheduled for 2019. I’m looking forward to playing with this new “toy”.

Take care and thanks again,
r,
 
Thank you r, and Jim for your response but I will have to deal with these another time. I thought it would be a easy fix but looks look I'm going to have to devote a little more time to reading up on the setting and have time to adjust the "Home" and "2nd" position.

Right now I trying to how to configure my pumps but I think the wiring is wrong. Going to ask that question in new thread so It will be easier to find if other have same question.
 
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