Salwater Pool Opening

Starting the process of opening the pool now it's warming up.

11.6k gallon gunite rectangle pool.

Followed TFP levels and charts, looks like I should get my TA down but have read other threads that say just keep your Ph in check and TA will sort itself out.

Anyways these are my results, what does everyone think?

CYA was added yesterday but I might have overshot/tested too soon...

Last year my solar cover basically disintegrated, and couldn't figure out why, maybe the higher FC? Got a replacement just don't want it to happen again.

Jandy TruClear SWG 8am-4pm 7 days a week at 1750rpm and set to 10% output.

Only other issue I fought last year was constantly rising Ph, but seems that's just how it goes with SWG.

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Pool Water test kit for inground with SWG

I am tired of getting different results from Pinch a Penny and Lesley stores along with different recommendations and would like to purchase the best test kit for my 10,500 gallon pool in South Fla. Obviously between the sun and rain - weather plays a significant factor in maintaining proper levels even though we only use the pool in the summer. I have researched test kits and can not decide between these two options: (1) Taylor K2006c (so I have more reagents) plus Taylor-1766 (salt test) and Taylor 9265 stirrer or (2) TF-Pro Salt. Please advise as to which option and why. By the way is the stirrer in TF Prosalt the same as Taylor 9265?

I have a Hayward Swim Pure Plus SWG that indicates the salt level which has been consistent with the store readings so I was also wondering if I still need a kit to test the salt level.

Thanks for your help!

TSP Alternative for filter soaking

Looking for a TSP alternative. I live up in Frisco (Dallas suburb), where we are packed together.
So I dont have a way to dispose of it without it hurting my neighbors grass (I have turf, thinking of run off), or pouring it out in the street and leaving a clean run off clearly showing I dumped something in the street lol.

I found some articles talking about Simple Green, but those are scented.
Cascade Platinum? OxyClean? Anyone used these?

Polaris 360 review - Buyers beware!

Bought the Polaris 360 to replace almost 20 year old Polaris 380 - motor died and interior was literally breaking apart. Purchased the 360 since it indicated no booster needed, more efficient cleaning and all wheel drive over the 280.

Fairly quick set up and to say it moved at a snail’s pace might be an overstatement.

After some troubleshooting with their tech, he asks if we were running the dedicated booster? Huh? Why? Instructed us to use and running okay now. It appears that even though the unit has a built in booster, it didn’t generate enuf to power the vac. We have a 1hp Sanddollar filter (pool 16 x 32) 3 inlets, 2 skimmers. The new unit is still slower still than the ancient 380. If not for having the dedicated pump we would have had to immediately return the unit! My hubby hadn’t connected it fearing that it would overpower and blow out it the new vac and it didn’t require it! Can’t understand how a pool of our size wouldn’t function without the separate booster pump. Extremely disappointed so far.
Wondering if I made the wrong choice by not purchasing the 280.

Hope this information is helpful.

What damage from 1 hp booster & polaris 280?

I've been suffering with a kreepy krawley robot cleaner for two seasons since my booster pump failed. I've seen posts saying things like "using a booster pump cleaner is like using a rotary phone". After using it during this time I disagree. The kreepy krawley does clean very well and fast, but it's a pain to take the filters out, a pain to clean the filters, a pain not keeping it in the pool, can't hold as much, etc. I guess I'm a rotary guy.

I have a line on an affordable 1 hp booster pump and can't justify the 3/4 hp prices. My question is, what damage would I expect a 1 hp booster to do to the Polaris 280? All connections look to be the same and I see lots of places selling 1 hp booster pumps, but I know Polaris sells the 3/4 hp.

Pentair Intelliconnect and Intelliflo/Pro3 VSF with Pentair App

I recently had this equipment installed. I do have the pump connected to the IntelliConnect via RS485. I am wondering how things should be configured in the app.

Currently I have the app configured with two pumps - one is the 'Intelliflo/Pro3 VSF' and the other is 'Pentair VSF (RS485)'. The only way I could see to change the pump's settings was to add the 'Intelliflo/Pro3 VSF' which allows access to 'Advanced Settings'.

In the process of adding/deleting the pump, sometimes the 'Intelliflo/Pro3 VSF' would show 'Controlled by automation' and I could not change any of the pumps programs. Currently it shows the programs and what one is running. When the pump shows 'Controlled by automation', the app doesn't show any running programs for 'Pentair VSF (RS485)' but a program is running.

Does someone know how the app should be configured?

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1 of my 5 spa jets stopped blowing air, but water still comes out fine. (how do these things work anyway?)

I've got an inground spa/pool. The pump is probably 60 feet from the spa. The air intake is back by the pump and is "screened" with a 1-1/2" PVC cap with about 10 holes drilled into it. I've unscrewed all the eyeballs to try and figure out what's happening to no avail (I just see a little plastic hex looking thing about 8" back from the wall. See photo). I've got the pool/spa drained right now and am currently refilling the pool while I diagnose/ fix this issue. I've already replaced all 4 globrite lights in the pool (WTF? $600 apiece that fail after 4 years...but I digress).

It's been like this for a few years now (they all did work for many years originally), so many changes in filter cleanliness, etc. I've tried different speeds on the pump.

Is it possible that water got into the air line (given that the input is pointed up), and maybe that's restricting the flow? Not sure why that would cause just the one jet to stop though.

One thing I've always noticed yet never understood (even back when all five jets worked fine) is that when the jets are on, if you fully cover one jet with your hand, all the other jets stop shooting air (just water comes out of them).

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Help with settings on a swg

Hey everyone. So I finally got my kit and got my subscription to pool math. I have my numbers in order but I have a minor snag.
My pool manufacturer wants 1ppm fc for the shell. I had it running high like 4s and had some bleaching so I'm trying to get it down. Here's my dilemma: my swg is a saltron reliant 25k that was reprogrammed for a 15k unit, my pool is only a 6k pool. I've noticed that a daily check of Chlorine is showing at 8 hours a day on the lowest setting I'm over producing 1ppm fc. Not running it for a day drops it 1ppm FC. So I'm running at the lowest setting for 4 hours a day until it's being used more will keep it at the ideal level (I'm aimimg for 2 because 1 seems low to me). Now a 6k pool, with a 3/4 hp single stage pump running for only 4 hours a day..... am I turning over the water long enough? I plan on getting another system when this one dies but for now it's what I have. Thanks everyone

Pentair Intelliflo VSF pump controlled by manual timer

I have a new pool, and re-used my 2 year old Intelliflo VSF pump. The electrician installed a manual rotary dial, but it looks like it is only controlling the salt cell. The pump seems to be hooked directly to 240V, not the timer, so I have to use the pump's timer programs. Is there a configuration available in the pump's menu that would allow it to just start up and be controlled by the manual timer, without having to press any buttons on the pump menu?

Correct wiring for 240 safety switch disconnect

I am rewiring for electrical service to our pool area, upgrading from 120 volts to 240 volts. I am also intending to add a safety switch disconnect (double pole NEMA type 3R) right by the pump/filter equipment. (The previous 120 volt/single speed pump system had no outside disconnect, did not have a GFI breaker at the panel, etc).

I think that the disconnect cabinet should be bonded along with other equipment and pool-side fixtures, but wanted to check on this issue. It's a bit tricky tracking this information down online. If the safety disconnect doesn't have a specific bonding lug, I should be able to tie in with the grounding terminal on the body - is that common practice?

Pool Pump Questions

I have a 7500g salt pool. Current pump is a 1.25 HP SMF-110. Salt Cell is a Pentair-iChlor 30.

How many hours a day should I aim to run my current pump? I live in the south and pool gets hammered full sun.

Second, Im having a hard time wrapping the numbers around if it makes sense to possibly make a change to a VSP and ditch the single speed. For my pool size, what size VSP would I be aiming for? Any input here would be greatly appreciated as Im sure Im overthinking the numbers and run times of a VSP.

Moving Electrical Position

Hello All,

New here, just bought a house with a pool. I joined here because I'm looking for some advice from those more knowledgeable then me, because water and electricity do not mix. I'll give a brief background, post some pictures, and describe what I would like to accomplish.


My wife and I moved into a new house two months ago, and noticed the irrigation is woefully inadequate (three circuits, and two are just for the grass in the backyard). As my wife and I are expecting, I wanted to find a quick solution, or at least one that didn’t require me to dig up the whole yard, so doing research, I realized I could just tie into the water and power for the pump and pool auto-fill. Currently the electrical for the pump, timer, GFCI outlet, and pool light are all kind of on a metal brace that is strapped to one of the pump pipes. I don’t think it looks the safest or most sturdy, so I want to mount it to the house wall, so I can also tap into it for the irrigation controller ( https://www.amazon.com/Rachio-Smart...8-3-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1 ).


What I want to do, is rather than move the conduits in ground, is attach a junction box to the two (and maintain the thermocraft J-box from that to the light wiring), and run some rigid conduit to the wall, up the wall, and to another box, where the GFCi will be, and off that, a Wifi enabled switch for the light in a box to the immediate left of the GFCI, connected by conduit. The pump timer will be to the left of that as well. The irrigation controller will be to the right of the GFCI, connected by conduit. I’ve attached a rough sketch below as well, and if there are any questions, please let me know, I can clarify.


If you guys have any comments, input, or if you think I’m just plan crazy, please let me know! Thanks in advance for the help and input!

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Guidance for newbie

Hi all,

I just moved into a house with pool in the UK, and am getting myself educated on pool balance, equipment etc. I have a few questions that I'd appreciate your guidance:

1. I believe I have a Pentair Swimmey pump. It's currently connected to the mains directly with no timer (see attached photo #1). What's the best way to turn off the pump so it's safe to clean strainer basket and operate on the filter?

2. There are two valves that are labelled, skimmer and drain/sup. There is a 3rd one that is not labelled (see middle one in the attached photo #2), what could this be? Thinking it vacuum valve. How can I find out?

3. I'm tring to get my head around all the piping. In the 3rd photo, there are two valves / pipes that I can't figure out. All I know is the one in the right connect to waste pipe.

Really appreciate your help and guidance

Thanks
Marcus

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Please help! I think I have a hole in my cover

ok - so this has happened before. I'm pretty sure there is a hole in my cover. The pool store opens and closes my pool. I do everything else. they came today to start draining the cover and 4 hours later it's still draining. I'm sure it's draning my pool water as it's soooo low. So my question is: do I stop the pump AND the water? One or the other? maybe stop water but keep pump going? I just don't want to pump all my pool water out or what's left of it, but I need to get the water off the cover. I'm so bummed. I was so hoping for a blue opening this year since I had a huge problem last year too. tried to add a photo but it's saying it's too big, I've never had that issue before...
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Hayward Saltwater Chlorinator

Good Evening,

I have a saltwater pool with a Hayward saltwater chlorinator. Pool is opened up and the saltwater chlorinator is showing 0 for the salt level but what is odd is that the light that turns green to show the power is on has been turned off. I haven’t cleaned the cell in awhile. I understand this could be it. I also am worried it’s the control board. No idea where to begin. Anyone ever had this happen?

Pentair GloBrite Alternative - Waking LED Pool Lights

I purchased two Waking LED lights from China that are a direct replacement for Pentair GloBrite. They cost me $90 each plus shipping, and the total for two lights with shipping, sales tax, and a 3% fee for using a credit card on Alibaba was just under $300 ($150 per light). Took less than 2 weeks to ship from China to my house. Note that there is currently an exemption for tariffs for purchases up to $800 that will expire May 2, 2025, so you might need to wait until the tariff exemption is either extended or they bring it back.

They fit directly into the Pentair GloBrite Niche, are 18W LED, and are available with various length cords (15M, 30M, etc.). They will not sync with Pentair lights, so you need to change all of the lights to Waking. I only have two lights, so it was not an issue, but you might if you have a lot of lights. I am very happy with this light. Fix my two broken Pentair LED lights (one not working, one only working in “green” color) for under $300. They are RGB, not RGBW like Pentair, so the white will not be as true as an RGBW light. I typically don’t use white, so I don’t remember what it looked like with the Pentair GloBrite, but the Waking white looked good to me. It also works perfectly with my Pentair automation. I’ll try to update this at a later date if I run into problems, but my Pentair lights were only lasting 2 years (or less), so they can’t be much worse, and they are a lot cheaper.

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You can purchase them on Alibaba.

Sand Filter Leaking From Bottom

Pentair Sand Dollar high rate sand filter appears to have small leak from bottom drain plug. It's dripp8ng one drop at a time. Just opened 10 days ago and tbh haven't had system leveled out yet re TC and FC. Salt wTer pool w intellichlor IC 60. My sister was too eager and had pool guy open when water temp too cold for acg to work. As soon as I started getting salt level close, we had days of rain, and sane thing is about to happen again in hr. I'm adding pool shock.now.
I'm concerned about drip fr bottom sand filter

Polaris P825 Keeps Powering Off

I was hoping someone could help me out with my P825. I start it up and it goes forward just fine but powers off once it hits the wall.....every single time. I will move it and turn it around and it does it 100% of the time. I'm wondering if there is a short in the cord from the control unit to the cleaner, but wasn't sure how to go about taking it apart to check it out. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Water chemistry, which to adjust first

Hi everyone. Total novice here, albeit a motivated one!
I just moved into a new home which has an IG pool (not salt), having never owned a pool before I’m now learning the ins and outs of pool chemistry.
I read various threads that talk about potential issues with one chemical/balance due to another one being off, so I assumed there’s a priority to which reading you need to balance first in order to then address the others.
My question is, if multiple readings are off, in which order should I begin to adjust the main 7?

This is a general question as I don’t know what my test results are yet, I just ordered the recommended test kit yesterday. But if faced with everything out of wack, I’d like to know where to start 🤯

Thanks from the newbie!

Beware of Hayward Warranty

I purchased a T-cell-9 from Amazon 18 months ago. Directly from Amazon as seller and shipper, not from a 3rd party. Paid the full retail price, same as any other place I looked at for pricing. 18 months later, the T-cell shows it has failed. I have tried cleaning with no success. I put in another older cell I had kept and it works fine. So pretty sure it is the Hayward cell. I had registered the cell with Hayward so contacted them for warranty. Their requirement is that I drive 90 minutes each way to the nearest service center. I am in San Jose, California. So not a tiny town. But only place they allow me to go is north of San Francisco which is over an hour in no traffic. With traffic, 90 minutes each way. They gave me names of closer places, but all required a >$100 fee to come out to test to cell, and even then, I would still have to deal with the drive up to the service center to deliver the bad cell. I escalated with Hayward and they would not budge.

So be aware that while Hayward provides a better warranty than after market T-cell suppliers, their warranty (at least for me) was worthless. I think Hayward T-cells are still better quality than aftermarket, but just be aware of their warranty difficulties.

When to replace and where to buy Jandy CL 460 Filters

So I have been replacing my filters once a year.
After reading though, maybe I can make them last longer?
How often do you replace your filters?
Or can I just take them out, clean them, and get another year out of them if they are in decent shape?

Also, the price keeps going up on Amazon. Last year the ones I got were $180. Two weeks ago they were $200, and now they are $220 as of today. Crazy.

Where is everyone getting their filters?

Pump priming dry

Hi all have a small issue with the pump priming dry and will be replacing the lid gasket and the drain plugs for the pump basket. My next thought was the replace the gasket on the vari valve could that also be an issue and if the one below the correct replacement thanks

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Intelliflo3 VSP I/O Board - Heater and SWG

Hey, I'm in the process of installing a Intelliflo3 VSP with the I/O board attachment. I understand that there are 2 relays on the I/O board, 5A and 16A terminals.

I was wondering if it would be possible to connect the Circupool RJ60+ to one set of relays to act as a backup to the flow switch and ensure that the SWG is only on when the pump is on.

In addition, I was also hoping to connect my Hayward H400K btu NG heater to the other relay to be able to turn on/off the heater through the Pentair app? I understand that I won't be able to control the temp, but I wouldn't be interested in changing it. I'll manually set it to the desired temp, but would like the ability to turn on/off the heater remotely?

I read a prior post where someone mentioned that I would have connect the fireman switch to the relay, but I'm not too familiar with that concept.

Has anyone successfully done this before? Thanks in advance!

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