What is 3EC?

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The amount of CYA is only determined by the size (gallons) of the pool. Since this is a new fill you will have zero as it has to be added to the water.

FC amount will be determined by the size (gallons) of pool AND the amount of CYA in the water.

The shaken test for the pH shows you how aeration pushes the pH up. That could include the water pouring into the pool, heavy rain, LOTS of splashing and cannon balls, etc.

OH NO on the site not being ready but................at least the pool will be there when it site is ready! Are you doing the site yourself?

Kim:kim:
 
Yes that's my little brother on the back hoe. I decided to do it myself because I am retired and have the time. The pool store I first approached, said they could not do it this year. And that they would charge 31 hundred dollars to install. Forgot to mention, while you said this water makes great pool water, it's not fit to drink. It seem so chemically treated we use an inline filter.
 
No. Our city years back had a completely revamped water filtration plant built. It has tasted chemically sense. It is not well water, I keep forgetting to answer this question. I believe it is simply over treated.
 
Here are the "cliff notes":

-no pool yet, should be here today
-site not ready but close-he and his brother are doing the work
-He has learned how to use Pool Math!!! :sun:
-He knows what to buy to put in the pool when it is ready

There ya go!

Kim:kim:
 
Thanks Kim.

But Hayseed, I feel some of your pain.
I was so stressed out when it came time to add my first few doses of chlorine. And you can bet I was nervous on the first day when I threw that long tube sock full of cyanuric acid and tried to get it to dissolve. All the different numbers for all the reagents in my Taylor test kit. UGH. I still feel like I don't know half of what I should know to keep my water in good balance. It's getting easier every week but I would never call it simple.
 
With the kind of help one receives from you guys here at TFP, I will be able to, eventually master this chemical pool care. I am just anxious to get the water in the pool so I can, put all I have learned to a few tests. The main thing I don't want to do is to get to much CYA added, would hate to think about dumping pool water, first thing. I am going to go at it slow, to save headaches I don't need. Hopefully the tractor trailer will be able to get on to this street to deliver pool. I asked and he said it was a 53 feet long trailer. Then I need to rent tracked bob cat to clean the bottom of pool floor. Then on to setting up the pool. One thing I don't understand about the delivery, is that the pool company I purchased the pool from wants me to make sure everything gets delivered, and accounted for. I do not get pools delivered very often to my house, so I am sure not to know what is here and what is not. I just hope someone makes it good if I sign for something i failed to be able to identify as not being in one of the boxes. I guess that's why you have pool builders. Thanks for everything.
 

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All there-I would look real close at the condition of the boxes and shirk wrap. There should be a bill of laden the driver hands you. I would (and did) cut the shrink wrap (plastic stuff around the boxes to keep them together) to make sure you have all of the boxes needed. They should be labeled. Hand your driver a $20 for having to wait and he might even help you out!!!

Kim:kim:
 
Well the pool has arrived and I wheeled it all back to my work shop. Seems to all be there and without damage. I bolted together the six, in my case, straight wall upright supports today, can't believe the heat and humidity today. We have only one place that rents earth moving equipment, so I have to wait in line to get the machine I need to finish the pools resting place, plus 4th of July. I will be at a stand still until next week. So I am spending time looking TFP. I want to find set ups of AGP that include their placement of the pool and pump to see if some would give me a rough idea of the best place, to position mine.
 
We have a the "Under Construction" part that may fit your needs. Try doing a search (white box at the top of this page) with the words "above ground pool" and see what you find.

I have my set up on here somewhere. Not sure if it is the best set up but it makes sense for my area.
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Kim:kim:
 
Thanks for the pics. My problem with the search here on TFP, is this. I type in above ground pool, thinking I am going to find things related specifically to above ground pool, but that is not what happens. The search box takes your words and enters them like this; above, ground, pool. So from this changed entry, we are not searching for above ground pool anymore. We are searching for things relating to the word,above, things related to the word, ground, and things related to the word, pool. Chances are you may get lucky and you may find a related topic, but you have to wade through all the searches for above, ground and pool in order to find at the end what you really wanted all along. This needs to be addressed, it is not in any way set up correctly. Search entries should not be changed to fit the TFP's search guide lines. It should be the other way around. Just my two cents, the way it is now makes it challenging to find threads that pertain to things you want to see. Hence all the threads that are started asking the same questions. Kim? I have seen a posting where you told someone your pool was some what deeper in the middle. If this is the case, can you say by how much, and by about what area. And too, was this achieved by having a higher wall liner placed in a lower wall pool, as in a lap liner. Can the beaded liners be a little deeper too?
 
Like in just about any search engine if you want the words to "stay together" in a search you need to add " " to either side of the words you are searching with. I hope that helps.

Middle bowl. Liners have some stretch so I did not need a bigger liner. My difference from the edge to the middle is about 1.5" so not much. We had this done for the main drain we put in. I had high hopes of the main drain sucking all of the floor down and out but it has not worked that way :( I need to run my skimmer on about 3/4 to get the top clean so my main drain does not do much at all.

Kim:kim:
 
Here's how I did the equipment for my pool. I took a cheap AG pool from Walmart and heavily modified it to suit my wants and needs. Honestly, I think I spent 3 times the cost of the pool in equipment for it, lol. Also, there's a through the wall skimmer that I installed by cutting a hike in the liner. It's not in the pictures below, but you can find it and other pictures in the link in my signature about my modifications.

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Its a dreary cloudy day, so pictures didn't turn out that good, but here we go anyway. And yes, there's a reason I don't work as a painter, lol.


The front of the shed I built:



Need to figure out what to do with 10+ extra feet of wires, lol



Plumbing coming out the back. The spigot is to hook up a hose to lower the water level if I need to. Connects to the drain plug of the filter.





Cut out the Coleman/Intex fittings that come on it and replaced them with 1-1/2" Hayward fittings from Amazon. Slight leak from each (about a drop every 5 minutes) that I need to check on this week. Probably not enough Teflon tape.
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Don't make the mistake I made and install you pool with the equipment facing the road if it's in your side yard or trying yard. Not worth it to drain to rotate, but still annoys me.
 
kimkats said:
Like in just about any search engine if you want the words to "stay together" in a search you need to add " " to either side of the words you are searching with. I hope that helps.

Middle bowl. Liners have some stretch so I did not need a bigger liner. My difference from the edge to the middle is about 1.5" so not much. We had this done for the main drain we put in. I had high hopes of the main drain sucking all of the floor down and out but it has not worked that way :( I need to run my skimmer on about 3/4 to get the top clean so my main drain does not do much at all.


Thanks for information. Most of which I had no idea about, and the rest I still don't understand. Never new about the "together thing" until now, how could I go this long and not know this? Oh, well! Middle bowl liners? I have searched liners to buy, and never saw this style mentioned. So the typical liners bought for one level, AGP's are not compatible for having a lower point in the middle? And I guess especially for beaded liners that could pull out of perch. You had hopes the drain would suck the floor down? Does this mean you wanted that drain to clear debris from the floor like leaves and what not? Seems like it should work, if not on its own at least you should be able to brush, push debris into the drain for easy removal, but I guess this is not much help either. Running your skimmer on about 3/4 to get top clean, this is where I have to show my foul mouth side and simply say this, "what the heck does this mean?"
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Forgot to thank you for the pics. I will check out "pump placement". The reason I asked about the placement of the pump is because I do not know the level of sound that is generated by the pump. I have read text, where some have mentioned their pump is noisey, and to what degree it did not mention. I just wanted to know how far away from the main deck area pump should be placed, so as not to hear it while lounging by the pool. I have also herd mention that the pump needs to be a certain amount of distance from the pool because of the electric involved, unless their is a structure between pool and pump. And I wonder if the pump if placed further away from pool, out of sight, would this affect its efficiency.
 
My liner is a regular liner. Since the vinyl has some give/stretch you can make your bottom with a high and low side or do like I had done which was have them just add a slight slope towards the middle aka make a middle bowl. You really don't notice it as you walk from the side to the middle except to notice the water it getting a little deeper as you get closer to the middle.

Skimmer and main drains-My skimmer has its own valve as does my main drain. That means I can control how much "pull" each one has from the pump. I had hoped I could brush towards my main drain and it would suck dirt and stuff into in OR since we have the floor sloped towards the middle it would go there on it's own. What I found is that does not happen with the way I have my valves set up. I have to set my skimmer to 3/4 open in order for it to clean the top of the pool during the day. Even if I have my main drain open 100% on it's valve they are both going to the same pump so.................it does not work like I had hoped it would. I have tried having my skimmer open less so my main drain gets most of the pump's pull but then the surface gets messy fast :(

My pump and equipment is right next to my pool and I don't even notice it! My pump is very quiet. It is hard plumbed as I am sure you noticed from the pics. Also notice each place there is a hole in the pool (return and skimmer) there is a valve so I can close that area as needed to work on the equipment. I also have unions so I can remove any piece of equipment as needed.

Kim:kim:
 
When we first put up our pool we put the pump and filter next to the pool (I think the instructions require 4 ft away from the wall for safety. We decided we didn't like it there because we could see it when sitting in the back of the yard. So 3 years ago we moved the equipment to the back of the yard which is about 15-20 feet away. My husband hard plumbed the lines using the gray electrical pvc which is heavier duty than white pvc (my husband spoke with I think an electrician who said the gray was better or stronger, and the curves/bends are not as tight for water pressure avoiding 90 degree angles in the pipes.) He buried all the pipes and ran electrical from our garage to the back corner of the yard for the equipment.

Here is a very old pic. The original placement of the equipment. We hard plumbed because the hoses only seemed to last 2-3 years before springing a leak and needing to replace them.
When we moved the equipment, it is now in the corner near the neighbor's garage.

We also have a deep end and used an expandable 25 mil liner.
 

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