Well, that's what I was trying too avoid ? The picture a few above of small breaker box... there are 3 outlets on the bottom. Left one goes to pool lights (switch by pool), middle one goes to low voltage transformer (deck lights), right one goes to timer box. The bottom breaker (blk wire) goes to other box, connects to red wire that comes back and ties to wires going into left and middle outs. I checked the connection in the timer box, and it's got 120v. I was not wanting to pull all all those wires out, since lighting was fine before I started messing in the timer box. I haven't touched the breaker box.