What are the best products to caulk the joints between the coping to waterline tile and coping to deck? What products do people recommend? Same for both locations or different? I want to use the best, not the cheapest.
Urethane between coping, tile and deck?
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Deck-O-Seal
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DECK-O-SEAL
DECK-O-SEAL two-part, polysulfide-based joint sealant is a premium-grade, pourable, self-leveling sealant. It is a non-staining sealant that cures at an ambient temperature to a firm, flexible, tear-resistant rubber. DECK-O-SEAL is highly resilient and has excellent recovery characteristics...
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Thank you! Any recommendation on the joint between the coping and waterline tile?Deck-O-Seal
DECK-O-SEAL
DECK-O-SEAL two-part, polysulfide-based joint sealant is a premium-grade, pourable, self-leveling sealant. It is a non-staining sealant that cures at an ambient temperature to a firm, flexible, tear-resistant rubber. DECK-O-SEAL is highly resilient and has excellent recovery characteristics...
- Jul 21, 2013
- 65,336
- Pool Size
- 35000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
Deck-O-Seal has a product for vertical joints that is not self leveling.
Hello, I'm trying to understand what the correct process is and materials to use when filling in the gunite around PVC (returns/jets) and Conduit (light) penetrations in the pool shell. What materials do people recommend to fill this void and is it recommended to waterproof around the penetration before plaster? Just want to know the process and steps so I understand if it is being performed correctly.
Thank you!
Thank you!
- Jul 21, 2013
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- 35000
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- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
Hydraulic cement
We just had a discussion about it here...
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We just had a discussion about it here...
The latest issue with the nightmare build in AZ, pool lights
So we have gotten through a lot of issues,like seriously having to re-do almost everything 2-3x. So clean up crew comes to get the pool ready, pre plaster clean up. They pull the protective covers off the lights that have been covered in shotcrete and I notice one light is tilted up 15-20...
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The contractor I talked to said they typically use Xypex hydraulic cement around the penetrations.
Any concern with this product?
Any concern with this product?
- Jul 21, 2013
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- Pool Size
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- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
Looks fine. Quality of the applicator is as important as quality of the product.
Waterproof Concrete Crack Sealer & Repair Products - Xypex
Xypex provides a wide range of concrete repair applications such as stopping flowing water, patching, resurfacing, rehabilitating and cracks repair.
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The builder also likes using Versabond for the tile but I'm leaning toward Laticrete 254. It's more expensive but it sounds like the better product for pools. Does it probably even matter or am I overthinking this?Looks fine. Quality of the applicator is as important as quality of the product.
Waterproof Concrete Crack Sealer & Repair Products - Xypex
Xypex provides a wide range of concrete repair applications such as stopping flowing water, patching, resurfacing, rehabilitating and cracks repair.
- Jul 21, 2013
- 65,336
- Pool Size
- 35000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
I understand the point your making but some products are not appropriate for certain applications. Is versabond an acceptable product for waterline tile? I don't see pools listed on its literature. If you don't know, that's fine also.
I just want to make sure the tile is not popping off next year and then people are telling me we used the wrong product.
- Jul 21, 2013
- 65,336
- Pool Size
- 35000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
It looks like your builder likes to use products that can be bought at HD versus more specialty suppliers.
Versabond does not mention it is suitable for submerged applications unlike Laticrete which does. I would prefer Laticrete be used.
@AQUA~HOLICS @bdavis466 you have an opinion on Versabond?
Thanks. Curious why do you say this? I looked and Versabond is indeed sold at HD but AFAIK, Xypex is not.
- Jul 21, 2013
- 65,336
- Pool Size
- 35000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
Also, the builder is open to using whatever products I want to use. This is why I'm trying to figure out what is acceptable vs what is preferred. When I mentioned Basecrete waterproofer and told me that he believed XYPEX makes a superior waterproofing application. I obviously have no experience or opinion- that's why I'm here.
Edit: I'm definitely using Laticrete 254 on the waterline tile. I'm probably fine with Versabond on the raised wall tile but I think cost is negligible in the grand scheme so I'll probably just recommend 254 for everything to be on the safe side.
I suppose for the hydraulic cement it is less important about the product and more about application and cure time. If XYPEX makes a hydraulic cement that he prefers to use, I don't see a reason to pick a different product.
- Jul 21, 2013
- 65,336
- Pool Size
- 35000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-60
Few people have experience doing A versus B comparisons of products. Most folks will se whet they have had good experience with. A good start is always checking the usage the manufacturer recommends.
The brand doesn’t matter but the rating does. The Versabond I’ve seen is not rated for submerged applications but maybe they have a product that is?
Laticrete has exceptional products for your specific application.
Waterproofing is similar too. Make sure it’s rated for submersion and suitable for the positive or negative ( or both) side of the shell.
I’m partial to Basecrete but there are other options. Laticrete has waterproofing that is also very good.
Regardless, using a quality thinset and waterproofing will yield far better results than using something that isn’t designed for the specific application.
Laticrete has exceptional products for your specific application.
Waterproofing is similar too. Make sure it’s rated for submersion and suitable for the positive or negative ( or both) side of the shell.
I’m partial to Basecrete but there are other options. Laticrete has waterproofing that is also very good.
Regardless, using a quality thinset and waterproofing will yield far better results than using something that isn’t designed for the specific application.
What Laticrete waterproofing do you recommend? I'm trying to do some research on the differences. I just haven't found a ton of reviews on XYPEX so I'd rather use something that is widely used across the industry. Since I'm using Laticrete for the thinset, it might make sense to just use Laticrete for the waterproofing also.
Along these lines, what do people recommend for epoxy grout on porcelain waterline tile?
edit: looks like Laticrete make a couple different waterproofing products but the only one i see for pools uses a fabric with the membrane. i don't want to make the install any more challenging than it needs to be and this product sounds like there is more potential to incorrectly apply it.
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