Suction Line for a second (feature) pump

Why do you think you need that? Do you close your pool ever?

I'm not sure you could do something similar to that given the position of the MD line right below the 3-way valve to the main pump.
 
Just for clean-out purposes. Suppose something gets stuck then it's easy to clean. That's all
Nothing should ever get stuck in MD pipe because the MD cover openings are so much smaller than the pipe diameter. In the almost 20 years of owning my pool, I never once have needed to clean out a MD line. But I don't ever push debris into the MD which really shouldn't be done anyway.

However, should the cover get clogged with debris, you can easily backflush the MD line through the pump inlet so a separate fitting isn't really necessary.
 
Nothing should ever get stuck in MD pipe because the MD cover openings are so much smaller than the pipe diameter. In the almost 20 years of owning my pool, I never once have needed to clean out a MD line. But I don't ever push debris into the MD which really shouldn't be done anyway.

However, should the cover get clogged with debris, you can easily backflush the MD line through the pump inlet so a separate fitting isn't really necessary.
Got it. Thank you. Not required.
 
Is that dedicated for the water features or are you using it as the main circulation filter? That filter has a maximum flow rate rating of only 100 GPM (50 GPM recommended) which is much too small for all the water features. It is also too small if you are going to use it for the main filter. The main filter should be 300 sq-ft or larger so you don't have to clean it very often.

From the pictures, it doesn't look like you have any filters for the water features right now anyway. Many pools don't use them and just clean out the features when they clog. The waterfall is probably the most critical and you just want to avoid getting rocks into it which the rock trap will do.



To use the cleaner port as a suction port you will need a VGBA/APSP-16 compliant cover. Something like this:



That is a total of 5 ft and at 15 GPM/ft, that is a total of 75 GPM. [EDIT] So the total for water features would be 75+40+30 or 145 GPM but it is good to have a bit of margin to work with because running all three off the same pump is going to require adjustments to each to get the effects you want but I don't think your current pump can meet that flow rate given the restrictions in the plumbing.


So now I am really confused. I though the pool main drain was 3". Is the spa MD 3"? From the pictures, it looks like the pool MD is 3" and the spa MD is 2". But 2" is really too small for both. How many jets does the spa have?

Who ever did your pool plumbing design did you absolutely no favors.


356903.A & 354605.E are not actual model numbers.

Pentair Intelliflo model numbers start with a 0 for example:

Pentair IntelliFlo 2 VST 011055
Pentair INTELLIFLO 3 VSF 011075
Pentair INTELLIFLO 3 VSF, IO BOARD 011076
Pentair IntelliFlo i1 VS 011059
Pentair IntelliFlo i2 VS 011060
Pentair IntelliFlo VS 011018
Pentair IntelliFlo VS 011028
Pentair IntelliFlo VS 3050
Pentair IntelliFlo VS EC-011028
Pentair IntelliFlo VS+SVRS 011017
Pentair IntelliFlo VS+SVRS 011057
Pentair IntelliFlo VS+SVRS EC-011057
Pentair IntelliFlo VSF 011056
Pentair IntelliFlo XF VS+SVRS 022057
Pentair IntelliFlo XF VSF 022056
Hello Mark,

I am attaching a picture of the wall suction line (vacuum line), and I want to purchase a VGBA/APSP-16-compliant cover.

Shall I screw the directly to the current fixture? if not, how do I remove the existing one embedded in the plaster?
Is that dedicated for the water features or are you using it as the main circulation filter? That filter has a maximum flow rate rating of only 100 GPM (50 GPM recommended) which is much too small for all the water features. It is also too small if you are going to use it for the main filter. The main filter should be 300 sq-ft or larger so you don't have to clean it very often.

From the pictures, it doesn't look like you have any filters for the water features right now anyway. Many pools don't use them and just clean out the features when they clog. The waterfall is probably the most critical and you just want to avoid getting rocks into it which the rock trap will do.



To use the cleaner port as a suction port you will need a VGBA/APSP-16 compliant cover. Something like this:

Shall I purchase this and screw it directly into suction port? Do I have to remove the suction port which is embedded with pool plaster? Do you have any idea whether this is 1 1/2 or 2 inch by looking at the picture? Thank you.
That is a total of 5 ft and at 15 GPM/ft, that is a total of 75 GPM. [EDIT] So the total for water features would be 75+40+30 or 145 GPM but it is good to have a bit of margin to work with because running all three off the same pump is going to require adjustments to each to get the effects you want but I don't think your current pump can meet that flow rate given the restrictions in the plumbing.


So now I am really confused. I though the pool main drain was 3". Is the spa MD 3"? From the pictures, it looks like the pool MD is 3" and the spa MD is 2". But 2" is really too small for both. How many jets does the spa have?

Who ever did your pool plumbing design did you absolutely no favors.


356903.A & 354605.E are not actual model numbers.

Pentair Intelliflo model numbers start with a 0 for example:

Pentair IntelliFlo 2 VST 011055
Pentair INTELLIFLO 3 VSF 011075
Pentair INTELLIFLO 3 VSF, IO BOARD 011076
Pentair IntelliFlo i1 VS 011059
Pentair IntelliFlo i2 VS 011060
Pentair IntelliFlo VS 011018
Pentair IntelliFlo VS 011028
Pentair IntelliFlo VS 3050
Pentair IntelliFlo VS EC-011028
Pentair IntelliFlo VS+SVRS 011017
Pentair IntelliFlo VS+SVRS 011057
Pentair IntelliFlo VS+SVRS EC-011057
Pentair IntelliFlo VSF 011056
Pentair IntelliFlo XF VS+SVRS 022057
Pentair IntelliFlo XF VSF 022056
Hello Mark,

Please find the attached image of the wall suction line (vacuum line).
 
Hello Mark,

I am attaching a picture of the wall suction line (vacuum line), and I want to purchase a VGBA/APSP-16-compliant cover.

Shall I screw the directly to the current fixture? if not, how do I remove the existing one embedded in the plaster?

Shall I purchase this and screw it directly into suction port? Do I have to remove the suction port which is embedded with pool plaster? Do you have any idea whether this is 1 1/2 or 2 inch by looking at the picture? Thank you.
If you can find a cover with the correct thread, that would be the way to go.
 
Mark,

I have changed the pool and spa lights. After I install the SPA light, I see the gap and I don’t know how to address this. What should I do to fix this gap.
 

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Was the gap there with the old light? Are you sure it is aligned properly.

That is strictly cosmetic since those are flooded niches so you really don't need to do anything about it unless you want to. You could possibly find a foam gasket to fill the void.
 
Was the gap there with the old light? Are you sure it is aligned properly.
Old light from pentair doesn’t have this issue. I have tried multiple times but no use and there is a gap. I don’t like to see those gaps which are bad.
That is strictly cosmetic since those are flooded niches so you really don't need to do anything about it unless you want to. You could possibly find a foam gasket to fill the void.
 

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Have you measured the outside diameter of the two lights? They look very similar.

This picture looks like the light is just not installed properly. I think you should be able to rotate the light bottom to the right (loosen top screw but do not remove). If the bottom tab is hung up, you might be able to bend it out some to give it a bit of slop. BTW, I have these lights and have had to do a bit of adjustment as well.

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I am not getting enough suction to the feature pump from the Main Drain. MD is completely closed for main pool pump. There isn’t enough pressure for all the features to run.

After 10 mins, feature pump is going into priming alert and then pump stops.


Definitely need to get more flow to each feature and the suction is not working properly for feature pump.

Distance from pump to Pool MD would be around 70 - 75 feet.

Feature filter pressure -
Laminar jets : shouldn’t exceed more than 50psi each one
Water bowls : 56.8 LPM each one
Water falls: https://www.pentair.com/content/dam...magicfalls-water-effects-brochure-english.pdf

3 water falls (two 18 inch and one 24 inch)
Mark,

What's the best filter to use for all water features? I want to buy the best one and get it done. Currently, I have CC100 for waterfalls and CC200 for the main pool.

I have a big pool and want the water to be crystal clear. What would be your recommendation?

Shall I purchase a big filter for the Main pool and use the current CC200 for waterfalls? Please suggest
 
The size of a filter determines not only how often it needs to be cleaned but also the maximum flow rate that can be passed through the filter without damage.

The lowest head loss filters are cartridge filters so I would stick with that type. As for size, no less than 1 sqft per gpm.

The filters you have may be large enough but we might want to get a flow rate estimate to confirm.

After all the fixes, are you now getting enough flow rate to the water features?

What is the current filter pressure for the water feature filter?
 
The size of a filter determines not only how often it needs to be cleaned but also the maximum flow rate that can be passed through the filter without damage.

The lowest head loss filters are cartridge filters so I would stick with that type. As for size, no less than 1 sqft per gpm.

The filters you have may be large enough but we might want to get a flow rate estimate to confirm.

After all the fixes, are you now getting enough flow rate to the water features?

What is the current filter pressure for the water feature filter?
We are still working on the plumbing. Once we are done then I will be sending you the picture.

Shall I leave the filters AS IS for now? CC100 for waterfalls and CC200 for the main pool.
 
We are still working on the plumbing. Once we are done then I will be sending you the picture.

Shall I leave the filters AS IS for now? CC100 for waterfalls and CC200 for the main pool.
Yes, leave the filters as they are. They may be fine but we need valid operational measurements to confirm.
 

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