Speed Settings and Schedules

[PoolGate]

I still am not sure you have your VSP set up properly yet. Did you ever confirm if you have a 4 wire cable going from the VSP to Aqualink?

To select a speed for the scheduler, you'll need to do the following (within the scheduler):

Select "VSP1 Spd Adj", then select speed, then set the time.

 

[generessler]

I hope the OP can follow the set up for the Jandy pump Starting on the screen you shown. it is weird that the OP has a schedule for a pump but the pump is not set up in the VSP setting screen.

I have no experience with FloPro, but agree this is strange. Wonder if the pump is wired like a single speed with power controlled by the pump relay. I looked at the manual. It's supposed to have continuous power just as every other VSP I've seen. I don't see how it would ever switch off with continuous power, since the RS-485 link doesn't seem to be configured.

 

[PoolGate]

I have no experience with FloPro, but agree this is strange. Wonder if the pump is wired like a single speed with power controlled by the pump relay. I looked at the manual. It's supposed to have continuous power just as every other VSP I've seen. I don't see how it would ever switch off with continuous power, since the RS-485 link doesn't seem to be configured.

I think he might have 2 pumps. A main pump and a feature pump. But I am guessing either the RS-485 is not connected at all or wired incorrectly.

 

[Paul Evert]

I still am not sure you have your VSP set up properly yet. Did you ever confirm if you have a 4 wire cable going from the VSP to Aqualink?

To select a speed for the scheduler, you'll need to do the following (within the scheduler):

Select "VSP1 Spd Adj", then select speed, then set the time.

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It looks like just 2 wires plus a ground. They are inside the conduit running from the pump to the AquaLink panel.

 

[PoolGate]

It looks like just 2 wires plus a ground. They are inside the conduit running from the pump to the AquaLink panel.

There should be a low voltage, 4-wire, RS-485 control cable going on the left raceway of that load center connected into 1 of the red RS-485 connections and to a similar connection on the pump end. These are in addition to the electrical cable.

 

[HermanTX]

It looks like just 2 wires plus a ground. They are inside the conduit running from the pump to the AquaLink panel.

See those 3 screws at the top of the faceplate - remove them and remove the faceplate - take a photo. We are looking for something like this.


Your PCB will have either 1 or 2 red connectors and we are interested in what is hooked up to the red connectors.
This is where the RS485 cable from your pump should be connected. Also, the wire from your antenna should be connected to one of the red connectors.

 

[HermanTX]

I think he might have 2 pumps. A main pump and a feature pump. But I am guessing either the RS-485 is not connected at all or wired incorrectly.

I hope @Paul Evert can confirm. There are 2 CB that are 20amp and 220V. The one on right is GFCI so that must be for the main pump. The other on left is not GFCI. Nothing is connected to the Filter Pump Relay - it is all connected to AUX 1 and AUX 2 relays. This may also be part of the issue in why it is set up as just an on and off switch to the pump.

The Qty 2 CBs for 120V also needs to be identified. One is for the main power to the AquaLink system. Is another for a light that is going to AUX 1 relay?

 

[Paul Evert]

It’s incredible. The amount of time you folks are taking to help me solve this problem. I want you to know that it’s very much appreciated and I hope I’m not wasting your time. These are the photos of the electrical panel for what it’s worth from our post yesterday. I was able to schedule to start stop times and apparently they worked because the pool ran all night.

 

[PoolGate]

You only show one device connected. Can you show the left side raceway I'm looking for a multiplex board that perhaps has more devices in it. Do you have a SWG? Heater? Also show a pic of the pump where the wires come out I'm looking for the thin 4 wire cable.

 

[HermanTX]

It’s incredible. The amount of time you folks are taking to help me solve this problem. I want you to know that it’s very much appreciated and I hope I’m not wasting your time. These are the photos of the electrical panel for what it’s worth from our post yesterday. I was able to schedule to start stop times and apparently they worked because the pool ran all night.

Thanks for the pictures. That shows there is 1 device connected to the RED connector.
In addition to what @PoolGate requested.
If you do not mine - we need several more pictures.
Take a picture of the DIP SWITCHES - they are just to the left of PCB board that you show in the post.
Take a picture of the GREEN connector as you did for the RED connector that shows the wires connected to it.
Take a picture of the whole system - back up about 4 ft and show the AquaLink box, any antenna and other controls nearby
Take a picture of your equipment pad from different angles showing pump, filter, heater, piping and valves

The pictures you took show that the installer did not follow protocol but it still works. The pump and SWCG are connected to Relay Aux 2 but they plugged it into the FILTER PUMP socket so it is acting as the Filter Pump Relay.
Your lights are connected to Relay Aux 1 and are plugged into the AUX 1 socket which is correct.

It appears that you have a second pump or something that is using the other 220V circuit breaker (CB) - how is that controlled? Do you have a manual switch?

 

[HermanTX]

I was able to schedule to start stop times and apparently they worked because the pool ran all night.

That is great but I suspect you are not reaping the benefits of the VS pump. It appears the schedule is just turning on and off the pump. The versatility of VS pump is to have a basic schedule for the pool at a minimum speed that operates your SWCG. This is most cost effective. Then schedule higher speeds needed for improved skimming or circulation if needed.

 

[Paul Evert]

I have no experience with FloPro, but agree this is strange. Wonder if the pump is wired like a single speed with power controlled by the pump relay. I looked at the manual. It's supposed to have continuous power just as every other VSP I've seen. I don't see how it would ever switch off with continuous power, since the RS-485 link doesn't seem to be configured.

it does switch off. Before we started this discussion I was running from 8 am to 8 pm.

 

[Paul Evert]

You only show one device connected. Can you show the left side raceway I'm looking for a multiplex board that perhaps has more devices in it. Do you have a SWG? Heater? Also show a pic of the pump where the wires come out I'm looking for the thin 4 wire cable.

I do have a SWG. The wires coming out of the pump are enclosed in a conduit but their are only the two wires and a ground going into the panel

 

[HermanTX]

I do have a SWG. The wires coming out of the pump are enclosed in a conduit but their are only the two wires and a ground going into the panel

Thanks for the pictures. You have a multiplex board on the far left where there are 3 connections. It appears to be the SWCG, the pump and the 2.0 Antenna. Please confirm that 3 of the 4 red connections are used as described. you can follow the small wires (we call this RS485 wire) to each device

So your pump is connected to the Automation. So you can set it up properly to utilize the VS pump at various speeds if you wish.

Can you take photos of the equipment (pump, filter, etc) from different angles so we can see all the equipment. You circuit breaker shows you have Qty 2 220V devices and one of those is the pump. What is the other?

 

[Paul Evert]

Thanks for the pictures. That shows there is 1 device connected to the RED connector.
In addition to what @PoolGate requested.
If you do not mine - we need several more pictures.
Take a picture of the DIP SWITCHES - they are just to the left of PCB board that you show in the post.
Take a picture of the GREEN connector as you did for the RED connector that shows the wires connected to it.
Take a picture of the whole system - back up about 4 ft and show the AquaLink box, any antenna and other controls nearby
Take a picture of your equipment pad from different angles showing pump, filter, heater, piping and valves

The pictures you took show that the installer did not follow protocol but it still works. The pump and SWCG are connected to Relay Aux 2 but they plugged it into the FILTER PUMP socket so it is acting as the Filter Pump Relay.
Your lights are connected to Relay Aux 1 and are plugged into the AUX 1 socket which is correct.

It appears that you have a second pump or something that is using the other 220V circuit breaker (CB) - how is that controlled? Do you have a manual switch?

I just have one pump. I hope these pictures help.

Thanks for the pictures. You have a multiplex board on the far left where there are 3 connections. It appears to be the SWCG, the pump and the 2.0 Antenna. Please confirm that 3 of the 4 red connections are used as described. you can follow the small wires (we call this RS485 wire) to each device

So your pump is connected to the Automation. So you can set it up properly to utilize the VS pump at various speeds if you wish.

Can you take photos of the equipment (pump, filter, etc) from different angles so we can see all the equipment. You circuit breaker shows you have Qty 2 220V devices and one of those is the pump. What is the other?

 

[Paul Evert]

I just have one pump. I hope these pictures help.

More pics to follow

 

[Paul Evert]

More pics to follow

 

[PoolGate]

Thanks for the pictures. You have a multiplex board on the far left where there are 3 connections. It appears to be the SWCG, the pump and the 2.0 Antenna. Please confirm that 3 of the 4 red connections are used as described. you can follow the small wires (we call this RS485 wire) to each device

So your pump is connected to the Automation. So you can set it up properly to utilize the VS pump at various speeds if you wish.

Can you take photos of the equipment (pump, filter, etc) from different angles so we can see all the equipment. You circuit breaker shows you have Qty 2 220V devices and one of those is the pump. What is the other?

I disagree. 1 connection is from the main board to the multiplexer. He has 2 connections. SWG and antenna. I don't think his pump is connected.

 

[HermanTX]

I disagree. 1 connection is from the main board to the multiplexer. He has 2 connections. SWG and antenna. I don't think his pump is connected.

That is most likely correct based on the latest picture. I was hoping that the 4th wire was there but not seen. That is why I asked to trace the wires back. It now appears to be only 3 wires to the multiplexer.

@Paul Evert - look for a wire that is connected to the pump but the other end is not connected to any thing.

 

[generessler]

it does switch off. Before we started this discussion I was running from 8 am to 8 pm.

I didn't make myself very clear. It _is_ switching off because the pump (afaics from the pictures) is wired wrong. Had it been done correctly - fed continuous 240vac - it probably would never switch off because the RS-485 hasn't been configured. (The way it's wired now is what you'd want with a single speed pump that has no RS-485 at all.)

I hope a TFP expert will have a look. I see the rightmost conduit from the bottom of the AquaLink panel going down to the pump. It's wired to the "load" side of the relay along with the SWG power. The SWG connection is correct, but the pump isn't. It should be wired to the "line" side or directly to the breaker, so the pump always gets power, not switched by the relay. See the manual, Figure 3 on page 9.

Then the RS-485 settings must be updated to control speed, including on/off.

The problem with the way it's wired now is that with the relay turning the power on and off all the time, the pump electronics that listen to the RS-485 are liable to be in some "not ready" state still booting up when the panel side is sending commands to turn the pump on. The usual result is error messages and failures, though it might work sometimes or even most of the time.

If that doesn't make sense, just see it as the relay and RS-485 electronics are fighting for control of the pump.

If I'm right, you should get it fixed.