So many problems all at once…. help please!

Fishfive

New member
Jun 17, 2021
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Georgia
Pool Size
28500
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Hayward Aqua Rite Pro (T-15)
Hi! Sorry for the long post but so much has gone wrong in the last month and an half….
Our pool is almost 4 years old and we have suddenly had multiple problems. It all started when our Hayward gas heater started making a loud banging noise upon starting and then finally stopped working completely. Then we had very cold weather and we woke up to an empty spa. Checked the equipment and one of our GFI breakers in our OmniLogic panel tripped and had a light flashing on it. Called a pool repair company and they came out changed the actuator valve on the return side of filtration, diagnosed that the gas valve need replacing in the heater and changed the breaker. After they left, our spa emptied again and we realized they changed the wrong breaker so the original one that needed changing tripped again. They came back and changed out the correct circuit breaker.

About a week later we had freezing temps again and circuit breaker tripped and spa was empty. Repair company came back and found that water was inside of the suction side actuator and was probably working fine until the freezing temps hit and then would stick. Changed that actuator valve and fixed the heater gas valve on that trip. Both actuator valves were Super Pro Actuators that they changed to Hayward.

Another week goes by and freezing temps hit again and we noticed pool wasn’t running. Went out to find that the circuit breaker that they had incorrectly changed (hadn’t needed changing) had tripped and pipes had burst between pump and heater. We took off the cover to the OmniLogic and noticed that said circuit breaker that originally didn’t have a problem but that was now tripped was seated kind of crooked and you could see what I think is a grounding screw between it and the breaker below. It’s hard to explain but I attached a pic. In the pic it is the top left double breaker. They were unable to get to us for around 4 days (it was in the 20s most of that time) so we kept all of our equipment covered and tried to heat it as often as we could but we were afraid to leave the heaters running while sleeping. They came out and fixed the pipes and then found that the front casing to our booster pump was also leaking (probably also from the freeze and the pool unable to be in freeze protect).

Could that circuit breaker being put in straight and not all the way have caused it to not have good contact and then trip when running for long periods in freeze protect? They put it in correctly and it hasn’t tripped since. If that is the case I feel like we should not be on the hook for the burst pipes etc….. We have already paid $1500.

Also today, we noticed that the heater is now leaking in the area of the heat exchanger. Could that also have happened when the pipes burst? The PVC burst and had cracks all the way through the joint that attaches to the heater.

Feeling very frustrated with everything….
 

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Welcome to TFP! :wave: Sorry to hear about all your problems. I'll reply to get this thread started and I'm sure others will follows.
- The breaker is certainly canted and not sitting flush. Could that be responsible for potential tripping? I would say yes. But proving it might be another issue. Good you have the pic though.
- Remember that heaters aren't designed to be operating in cold water. Check your manual. I think many of them say to not operate when water temps are below 60 or so. If your water was that cold, it's best to just run in bypass or leave it off.
- Unfortunate about the plumbing. As soon as the water stopped moving, your only choice was to (quickly) drain water at the equipment pad (pump, filter, pipes, etc) in hopes of preventing those issues. Sometimes it's totally unpredictable like when power goes out.

Since the techs had to respond to your residence several times, and obviously some of those were due to their own errors, I would think you have a reasonable case to argue the power loss which resulted in the plumbing breaks and booster pump damage. Use your best negotiating tactics and try.
 
Agree with all points by @Texas Splash
It does appear that the breaker installation was the cause for the pump to stop working which resulted in frozen pipes in both the heater and PVC lines and most likely cracked the booster pump.
You could make a claim against your insurance and see if they will pursue the contractor.
 
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