Serious help needed

[richardc]

Just hang in there, Richard...soon all will be revealed as they say

In the tactic that I'd suggested, debris will keep accumulating in those areas as you filter mostly the top. You want as much of it to settles as possible before your final slow-vac-to-waste session(s) if possible

If you get a chance in the next few days, post a pic of the entire pool - not close up on just the water. I'd like to see color & clarity to plot your next phase on well water management

Will do. I'm going to vacuum the entire shallow end, slowly, as a few small spots/areas show some debris. There are only a few areas, but I think I could hit them while I am waiting for the deep end to show more clarity.

Question. Can the shallow end vacuuming go to the filter, or only to waste? Of course, my concern is water loss being on a well, and conservation, and we are talking small amounts. However, if this stuff is algae I certainly don't want it in my filter. Please advise. Thank you!

 

[richardc]

Test at 730 AM CST July 17th

FC13.5
Adding

Debris observed along the mid to deep end side corner areas on one side of the pool

 

[richardc]

I am wondering if I can use my shop vac to get to the sides where the debris is located. The shop vac has the advantage of non-flexible hoses with nozzle type attachments. It is conceivable that a non-flex hose with a nozzle type attachment could be placed directly on the side/corner crevice debris. I am mindful of too strong a pull by the shop vac on the liner. Otherwise, I am not certan if my regular vacuum head can tilt/swivel to accomplish getting at the curved corners.

Also, my Barraccuda G3 might be a good option since it will cover all surfaces. However, I am again hesitant to go to waste with that machine, since it is likely it will cover "non-involved areas".

While I am waiting for your input I will examine my vac head to see if it can contour the affected areas.

I await your input.

 

[richardc]

Test at 920 am cst July 17th

FC 19

Vacuumed mid and deep corner areas, difficult to do, but got lots of it, also revacuumed shallow end :lots of stiff missed yesterday. Had to quit due to loss of water to waste. I decided to brush the corner area to move the matter of off the corner crevice curves.

 

[richardc]

A sample of waste debris. Notice the sand like and colored material. This looks like sand, but is it mustard algae? Also notice the dark particles which is likely the material vacuumed.

 

[richardc]

July 17th

 

[richardc]

I noticed a bunch of algae dead and alive along the upper levels of the deep and mid levels, still submerged, but clearly visible. The material was either milky white, or dark green, and were residing next to and adjacent to one another. Less obvious, but also adjacent to these deposits were grayish, slick amounts. My take were that these were algae dead and alive. I vigorously brushed, and brushed this stuff. I still have to brush deeper areas with the long handle. There can't be any question that the chlorine did not get to
some of these areas, or was still killing off these deposits.

I think I need a greater concentration of shock?

Yes, no?

 

[richardc]

It is amazing that a pool can contain deposits of stuff here and there in isolated spots.

 

[richardc]

Test at 12 noon cst July 17th

FC 17

Added one gallon before test after brushing, and refilling pool.

 

[kcindc]

I think I need a greater concentration of shock?

Yes, no?

I'm not sure what you are asking. Are you asking to go higher than the SLAM amount in the Chlorine/CYA chart? We have already address this with you in prior posts. Please stick with it.

Are you still adding a little DE to your filter? It will help filter out the finer particles faster.

It might not be a bad idea to recheck your CYA levels since you've had to replace some water a few times.

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A sample of waste debris. Notice the sand like and colored material. This looks like sand, but is it mustard algae? Also notice the dark particles which is likely the material vacuumed.

It is difficult to say where this material might have come from, but it is good that it is out. It is not mustard algae, but looks like two different types of sand.

Keep staying the course. You've come a long way.

 

[pabeader]

Those particles in #425. Are they hard or soft?

 

[Arizoniann]

I just spent the morning reading this entire thread, and it is incredible! To see all the hard work you have done and the progress you have made, is really awesome! I look forward to reading more updates and can't wait till we can all celebrate with you when your pool is crystal clear [emoji4] Keep going, Richard!

 

[richardc]

Test at 130pm cst July 17th

FC 14
Added

Long brushed the side with the algae on the walls

 

[richardc]

I have the Barracuda going to filter

 

[Pool Amateur]

I do not know much about the Barracuda, but I think it is fine taking it to filter, filter can catch it and send it out in the next backwash

 

[richardc]

I do not know much about the Barracuda, but I think it is fine taking it to filter, filter can catch it and send it out in the next backwash

It didn't work as I kept losing prime/suction.

 

[richardc]

I'm not sure what you are asking. Are you asking to go higher than the SLAM amount in the Chlorine/CYA chart? We have already address this with you in prior posts. Please stick with it.

Are you still adding a little DE to your filter? It will help filter out the finer particles faster.

It might not be a bad idea to recheck your CYA levels since you've had to replace some water a few times.

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It is difficult to say where this material might have come from, but it is good that it is out. It is not mustard algae, but looks like two different types of sand.

Keep staying the course. You've come a long way.

Yes, still adding small amounts of DE. Large amounts clog the filter.

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Although there is increased clarity in the water, I'm not seeing much improvement in the green color. This is very frustrating.

 

[richardc]

My CYA is under 20 (could be around 10). I have some old dichlor powder in the house that I would like to use. Given my low CYA what do you think?

I also have an unopened box of calcium hypochlorite here, as well. What say you?

 

[richardc]

I'm not sure what you are asking. Are you asking to go higher than the SLAM amount in the Chlorine/CYA chart? We have already address this with you in prior posts. Please stick with it.

Are you still adding a little DE to your filter? It will help filter out the finer particles faster.

It might not be a bad idea to recheck your CYA levels since you've had to replace some water a few times.

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It is difficult to say where this material might have come from, but it is good that it is out. It is not mustard algae, but looks like two different types of sand.

Keep staying the course. You've come a long way.

Good call on the CYA, it's under 20! I have old Dichlor, and Calcium Hypochlorite in the house. i would rather use this material then purchase more stabilizer. What do you think? Thanks for your help!

 

[PAGirl]

To me, that looks exactly like the fine sand that was in the one bag I got from Rural King that wasn't the right kind. I would recommend you look inside your filter to ensure the sand is the right level and the coarser filter sand, not the finer sand. I've been suspect of the filter, even though it's not shooting out anything in the return.