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More areas of the deep end are slowly coming into view. I can now see addtional deposits of silt adjacent to the other area I mentioned earlier. I can also see a small pocket of debris at an opposite corner area a foot inward. It seems like the direct sunlight overlooking my shoulder helps "illuminate" the deep end. The only areas not observable at this time are the deepest areas of the pool. Mind you what is visualized is not 100 % clarity, but enough to see or make out that debris is settled in any given area. If progress can continue along these lines than visualization should be had within a reasonable time.

I am adding diluted DE on a bit more aggressive order.

Onward ! :D
 
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The deep end visualization is improving. I can see some additional areas of silt build up. These areas are away from the deepest part of the pool, but still in the deep end. Hopefully, in another week or so, the entire pool can be visualized.

Onward !:kim:
 
Help...my sand filter sprung a leak in the side of the machine.....I have no idea how that happened. I went to do a chemical test and noticed that the pump had lost prime. I walked to the filter and noticed water everywhere, with the machine itself splitting and leaking. I will take pictures .

So the filter will have to be replaced. Mike had suggested a DE cartridge filter. Do you have opinions? I prefer a cartridge so backwashing can be eliminated. Thank you.
 
You need to describe where the filter is leaking from. It could just be your pressure valve loose, your spider gasket not seated properly, etc.

With respect to filter type, while sand filters slowest, sand is often a better bet if you have to deal with metal treatments. You are on a well. Its highly unlikely that there no metal in your water.

It is extraordinarily rare for the pressure vessel of a sand filter to leak. Can you clarify quickly so you can get it back in operation. If you stop now to change the filter, you will by attrition go backwards on the slam when you're so close.

If the vessel is indeed leaking, you have no choice. But if its anything else you can get it back in operation.

Check out this link: Why Is My Multiport Valve Leaking?
 
I had just read a post on cleaning that filter a few days before recommending it to you. I'm trying to find it now but not having much luck. I thought it was a post from a long time member maybe even one of the mods. I was hoping you could read that post & contact them. I'll keep looking maybe someone else saw it & can help locate it. I love my Hayward DE but it takes a long time to clean. Pulling 4 cartridges & hosing DE off look easier to me.
 
Swampwoman said:
You need to describe where the filter is leaking from. It could just be your pressure valve loose, your spider gasket not seated properly, etc.

With respect to filter type, while sand filters slowest, sand is often a better bet if you have to deal with metal treatments. You are on a well. Its highly unlikely that there no metal in your water.

It is extraordinarily rare for the pressure vessel of a sand filter to leak. Can you clarify quickly so you can get it back in operation. If you stop now to change the filter, you will by attrition go backwards on the slam when you're so close.

If the vessel is indeed leaking, you have no choice. But if its anything else you can get it back in operation.

Check out this link: Why Is My Multiport Valve Leaking?
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It literally started to split in the middle of the body of the filter...as in the casing of the unit. It is not at a seam or at any connection, but right in the middle of the case. I will take a picture.

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Mike1162 said:
I had just read a post on cleaning that filter a few days before recommending it to you. I'm trying to find it now but not having much luck. I thought it was a post from a long time member maybe even one of the mods. I was hoping you could read that post & contact them. I'll keep looking maybe someone else saw it & can help locate it. I love my Hayward DE but it takes a long time to clean. Pulling 4 cartridges & hosing DE off look easier to me.
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;n/'/.,

You recommended a pentair quad de filter. I found the post. You did not give a model number, only a name of the unit...Pentair Quad DE"
 
Sand filter body split where water was leaking.
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I sent a picture. In the photo you can see where the case started to split. This appears to be the case rupturing from either wear and tear, or age. The filter is likely a minimum of 30 years old.

I could try and plug the split, but this appears to be something that can only worsen. Given, the multiple concerns that have been raised on this board about my filtration system it would be best to replace it and go forward.

It would seem that time is of the essence so that I can continue my SLAM, since I was nearing some finality.

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Mike1162 said:
I had just read a post on cleaning that filter a few days before recommending it to you. I'm trying to find it now but not having much luck. I thought it was a post from a long time member maybe even one of the mods. I was hoping you could read that post & contact them. I'll keep looking maybe someone else saw it & can help locate it. I love my Hayward DE but it takes a long time to clean. Pulling 4 cartridges & hosing DE off look easier to me.
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You recommended a Pentair Quad DE, but did not specify a size. In reading their literature I am uncertain if I will need a new multiport valve or if mine will work. I really don't now. If new plumbing will be required I will need someone to install it for me.
 

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Dang it, I was hoping it was just a spider gasket,

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO OPERATE OR REPAIR split tank, it is UNDER PRESSURE.

While you're getting someone in to repace filter, add a jug of bleach each day and gently swirl top layers of water to mix it but try not to disturb the silt.

I will be interested to see what your clean pressure is on a new filter because 6 psi seemed abnormally low to me.
 
jstephens1 said:
can he put the multiport in recirculate? should bypass the tank part right?
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Thats an interesting suggestion. It should bypass the filter, should it not??

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Swampwoman said:
Dang it, I was hoping it was just a spider gasket,

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO OPERATE OR REPAIR split tank, it is UNDER PRESSURE.

While you're getting someone in to repace filter, add a jug of bleach each day and gently swirl top layers of water to mix it but try not to disturb the silt.

I will be interested to see what your clean pressure is on a new filter because 6 psi seemed abnormally low to me.
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Will do.
 
The filter is about 10-20 yards away

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Swampwoman said:
Dang it, I was hoping it was just a spider gasket,

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO OPERATE OR REPAIR split tank, it is UNDER PRESSURE.

While you're getting someone in to repace filter, add a jug of bleach each day and gently swirl top layers of water to mix it but try not to disturb the silt.

I will be interested to see what your clean pressure is on a new filter because 6 psi seemed abnormally low to me.
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I can't believe this happened when it did. I am so close. With the pump off and so much water lost, I can see most of the deep end ! I added a gallon of 12.5 % and am refilling the pool. The water dropped to the lowest point on the skimmers. My plan is to attempt to purchase and install a new filter tomorrow. However, I will need someone to install it for me. In the meantime, I will try to use the recirculate once the pool is filled.

SW, we are close...darn:eek:
 
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My plan is to attempt to purchase and install a new filter tomorrow. However, I will need someone to install it for me. In the meantime, I will try to use the recirculate once the pool is filled.
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Just a thought but if you have a pool tech out maybe you could have them bring an external vac pump so you or they could do a slow vac to waste while they're working on the installation. The pool guy who came out before had an external vac as I recall, and he fixed your pump so would be able to install the filter.

That guy was the one who'd originally said to get it clearer in order to avoid vac'ing blind, right? So he would "get it" re the sloooow vac plan...

After all, you've actually done exactly as he suggested. With the exception of your phone, I doubt there's much down there now that would clog his external vac.

If you did it this way, then your new filter would get a good start on polishing up your water and finishing off the slam. You'd likely be swimming by the weekend.

Maybe he'd let you vac, using his external unit, while he's working on the filter ;)

I say make lemonade of the situation ;)
 
Swampwoman said:
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Just a thought but if you have a pool tech out maybe you could have them bring an external vac pump so you or they could do a slow vac to waste while they're working on the installation. Did the pool guy who came out before have an external vac, and is he the guy you'd likely have install it?

That guy was the one who'd originally said to get it clearer in order to avoid vac'ing blind, right? So he would "get it" re the sloooow vac plan...
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Yes, the pool guy believed that vacuuming should be done once clarity was achieved. His goal was to try and clear the water so we could vacuum, and he was not a fan of doing it by "braille".

I will call today and see who can install a filter ASAP. Of course, the other problem is finding the right filter in stock locally.

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PAGirl said:
I have a feeling a new filter will speed up the process once you get one and get it going......
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I hope so. Things were improving so that I thought that within 7 days this would be solved. I have to get lucky now and solve this temporary setback. I have overcome setbacks before in climbing major mountains.

The thing is, that I have to avoid losing any ground that was so difficult to achieve. I can live with a temporary time setback, but loss and reversal of progress would hurt. Towards that end, I am refilling the pool, and will try to use the recirculate option to get water movement with my 12.5% chlorine.

Thanks to all for your support. :kim:
 
If anyone knows: can my existing multi-port valve for my Triton sand filter be utilized with a Pentair Quad DE cartridge filter? Pentairs' literature seems to indicate that one of their multi-port valves must be used? if anyone has experience please let me now. Thank you
 

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