Salt cell replacement

[Ccorbin28]

I have an all manual salt pool with all Jandy equipment pool built in 2014 with built in spa and heater for both estimated gallons is 28-30k, just bought the home and the AquaPure 1400 is showing 125 & 194 error code. I had the cell and the cartridge filter cleaned still showing error, so I assume I need a new salt cell?

the big question is from my understand of the forums Pentair IC40 or IC60 is the best as far as salt cell equipment, is it possible to convert to Pentair only for the salt equipment? Would I have to buy Pentair control panel as well?

I am being quoted $1,350 for the Jandy 1400 salt cell that would be a direct replacement. I just want to buy once cry once and have the best equipment possible.

Thank you

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

You would need to purchase the power center for the IC60 as well. Probably not the best value unless you are using Pentair automation to take full advantage of the system. Pentair's warranty is also limited for self-installs. A better choice is the CircuPool RJ60+. It's rated chlorine production is higher then most units out there, including the IC60, and you may be able to use your existing unions for the RJ cell. The warranty is pretty strong. Check out Discount Salt Pool for the best prices on the unit.

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

Forgot to post this. Maybe do a little more troubleshooting.

Jandy AquaPure SWG - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com

 

[Ccorbin28]

You would need to purchase the power center for the IC60 as well. Probably not the best value unless you are using Pentair automation to take full advantage of the system. Pentair's warranty is also limited for self-installs. A better choice is the CircuPool RJ60+. It's rated chlorine production is higher then most units out there, including the IC60, and you may be able to use your existing unions for the RJ cell. The warranty is pretty strong. Check out Discount Salt Pool for the best prices on the unit.

okay so with the CircuPool RJ60 would I need their control panel?

I'm more concerned about the longevity than I am the cost of the install

when you say automation are you refering to the salt cell control panel that allows you to up the % etc? or are you refering to apps on your phone? i would rather have no apps and my pool setup is all manual would love to keep it that way.

 

[setsailsoon]

I have an all manual salt pool with all Jandy equipment pool built in 2014 with built in spa and heater for both estimated gallons is 28-30k, just bought the home and the AquaPure 1400 is showing 125 & 194 error code. I had the cell and the cartridge filter cleaned still showing error, so I assume I need a new salt cell?

the big question is from my understand of the forums Pentair IC40 or IC60 is the best as far as salt cell equipment, is it possible to convert to Pentair only for the salt equipment? Would I have to buy Pentair control panel as well?

I am being quoted $1,350 for the Jandy 1400 salt cell that would be a direct replacement. I just want to buy once cry once and have the best equipment possible.

Thank you

Welcome to TFP Corbin! I'd definitely do some troubleshooting to confirm it's done. And if so, we recommend 2x your pool size and I have a similar sized pool. I went with a Circupool RS60 and that's what I'd do if I was you. Both would need their own power supply also but I think you can use either you may be limited to run time only if you have Jandy automation. The cheapest solution is a generic replacement cell but given the fact your AquaPure is 10 years old I'd go for a replacement. Would be a shame if your AquaPure bit the dust next year or two with a new cell. A big reason I prefer Circupool is they give a full warranty for DIY. If that's not something you do and you may want to transition to Pentair over time the IC 60 may be a better choice for you.

I hope this helps.

Chris

 

[setsailsoon]

I see you just clarified you don't care about automation and you really don't want an app. You won't need automation with addition of Pentair or Circupool. You will need a new power unit that will be wall mounted close usually on the wall of your house behind the pool pad. It should be installed so you have an additional level of protection to prevent running the swg with no flow. There are lots of ways to do this but make sure your installer verifies he's doing it that way and specifically how that will be accomplished. We're here to answer any questions that may come up.

I hope this is helpful.

Chris

 

[setsailsoon]

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[Ccorbin28]

CircuPool RJ-60 PLUS Saltwater Chlorinator | Discount Salt Pool

www.discountsaltpool.com

I would be doing the install, i love working on stuff. This appears to come with the control panel and everything i would need to work with my Jandy Timer and equipment?

My timer appears to be Jandy JEP-R.

if so this is around the cost of the replacement Jandy salt Cell i would much rather do this, just would like to confirm. Thank you

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

when you say automation are you refering to the salt cell control panel that allows you to up the % etc? or are you refering to apps on your phone? i would rather have no apps and my pool setup is all manual would love to keep it that way.

I'm talking about app control. Having the ability to monitor and adjust SWG output via phone app. CircuPool is the better value if you're not planning on Pentair automation in the future.

I'm more concerned about the longevity than I am the cost of the install

CP has a good reputation here. My unit has been going strong for 4 years and others have great things to say about the RJ units.

Longevity can be achieved by maintaining proper water balance (CSI, TA. pH levels) to avoid damage to the plates and to mitigate scaling. Cells should only be cleaned when needed, not based on some random schedule.

SWG How It Works - Further Reading

www.troublefreepool.com

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

CircuPool RJ-60 PLUS Saltwater Chlorinator | Discount Salt Pool

www.discountsaltpool.com

I would be doing the install, i love working on stuff. This appears to come with the control panel and everything i would need to work with my Jandy Timer and equipment?

My timer appears to be Jandy JEP-R.

if so this is around the cost of the replacement Jandy salt Cell i would much rather do this, just would like to confirm. Thank you

The CP unit just needs switched power, 115v or 230v. It comes set up for 230v, but needs to be manually configured to work with 115v.

 

[Ccorbin28]

The CP unit just needs switched power, 115v or 230v. It comes set up for 230v, but needs to be manually configured to work with 115v.

okay I don't want automation so I'm leaning towards the CP RJ-60+
I will have to look when I get home later today to see what my power sources are but I know I have 3 breakers right by my pool equipment, so I don't see that being an issue

several reviews of the CP RJ-60+ talked about switching from Jandy 1400 and how the size was the same but the threads were different so you cut pipe past the union, install the compatible threads for the CP and everything should be good right?

i can include pictures of everything tonight to try to help as well if needed

 

[setsailsoon]

If you're doing this DIY Circupool is an easy choice. They're great on cost in terms of $/# output. And warranty is very limited for DIY with all major brands. Read the fine print and you'll see what I mean. Warranty is especially important for swg units since all brands seem to have a few early fails on the swg cell. I think it's because the manufacturing process is complex. Both of my Circupool choices have worked out great for me and many others on here. There are other 3rd party units that seem to perform well for owners on here so check them all out. Last time I checked DiscountSaltpool.com had a deal to upgrade to the next larger unit for $10. This is a promo they run several times per year and I've been able to get it that way both times. DSP also has a handy dandy chart that compares most brands. Makes the shopping much easier.

Chris

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

several reviews of the CP RJ-60+ talked about switching from Jandy 1400 and how the size was the same but the threads were different

I've heard mixed comments about thread compatibility. Contact their support line and ask, they are usually pretty quick to respond. Otherwise, when you receive the unit see if it fits, if not cut out the old couplers and replace with the new.

This unit also comes with a flow switch and fitting. You may be able to remove the flow switch out of the fitting and replace your existing flow switch. That would make things a bit more easy.

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

While you're contemplating a new SWG, take the time to look over the link below. To properly care for your pool and your new investment, you should have a TFP recommended test kit. The kits from tftestkits.net provide the best value. Make sure you choose the "salt" option that includes the Taylor drop-based reagents (K-1766) for best accuracy. Look up your TFP recommended levels (chemistry) for a plaster/SWG pool. These are the numbers you should strive for to get the most life out of your SWG. Lower TA levels (60-80ppm) will help mitigate scaling tendencies in the cell.

Pool Care Basics

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What Are My Ideal Pool Levels?

Use our tool to find ideal chemical levels for any swimming pool. Check TFP recommended levels on pH, free chlorine, cyanuric acid, and more.

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[Ccorbin28]

I've heard mixed comments about thread compatibility. Contact their support line and ask, they are usually pretty quick to respond. Otherwise, when you receive the unit see if it fits, if not cut out the old couplers and replace with the new.

This unit also comes with a flow switch and fitting. You may be able to remove the flow switch out of the fitting and replace your existing flow switch. That would make things a bit more easy.

I believe my flow switch in my current Jandy is inside the cell, its a 3 Port cell. so I will contact support for CP on the threads and the plumbing of the Flow switch. Thank you guys for all the help, i am going to try to move forward with CP RJ-60+ and plumb it to replace my Jandy system. it's only $300 more than just a replacement Jandy Cell

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

The flow switch plumbing is nothing more than adding a Tee. Review the instructions for placement of cell and flow switch.

The RJ+ is a good value.

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

I will contact support for CP on the threads

I want to correct myself on compatibility. I was thinking Hayward, not Jandy. I'm pretty sure Jandy unions will not be compatible. You'll need to plump in the CP fittings. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Ccorbin28]

I want to correct myself on compatibility. I was thinking Hayward, not Jandy. I'm pretty sure Jandy unions will not be compatible. You'll need to plump in the CP fittings. Sorry for the confusion

It appears that it comes with 3 different sets of unions, i just cut my pipe and glue the correct size union supplied to my Pipe and thread on the unit?

seems easy, i dont want to over complicate it but am i missing something?

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

It's that easy.