Pool Inspection with House Purchase

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May 13, 2011
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NW Arkansas
Pool Size
12000
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Liquid Chlorine
SWG Type
Hayward Aqua Rite (T-15)
Is this the right place to post this? If not, feel free to move. I am purchasing a house in the Bentonville/Rogers area in Arkansas. I have scheduled home inspection but want a separate pool inspection. I follow TFP presently in Houston but am not a DIY, senior citizen, limited mobility, etc. New pool is recently remodeled, gunnite and tile. I think original pool is from 2006ish. Looks to be all original equipment, they did replace filter, I think it is sand, and one electronic board. There is no saltwater generator. Pool has cover. I will try to post pictures.

My daughter and son-in-law had a company inspect the pool they got with a home purchase in May, I was there, also in same location in Arkansas. The pool inspection was severely lacking and that's not saying much, considering I only know what I have learned here, and I knew what they were saying was wrong.

So what do I want to look out for? the sellers are offering to have their company open the pool for the inspection which is very accommodating.
 
-A true pool inspector is kinda hard to find. Do they guaranty their findings? Take photos of the pool, equipment pad, and any chemicals in a shed or garage which tell you what they've been adding- Very useful to us when we see something questionable.

-The pool would need to be uncovered, and clear water so you can inspect the plaster.

-He/She would have to be able to turn on the pump and listen for rattles or squeals. If variable, I would turn it up and down to test how it is responding. Try to put your hand over each return to feel the water and surface of pool.

-Take some water, even if the water is crystal clear, and test it. That can reveal a lot.

-Inspect the equipment pad and note any water. What is the water pressure reading? Does it look "normal" if the valves are turned? Again check how the returns feel when you turn valves.

That's about all I can think of?

Maddie :flower:
 
-A true pool inspector is kinda hard to find. Do they guaranty their findings? Take photos of the pool, equipment pad, and any chemicals in a shed or garage which tell you what they've been adding- Very useful to us when we see something questionable.

-The pool would need to be uncovered, and clear water so you can inspect the plaster.

-He/She would have to be able to turn on the pump and listen for rattles or squeals. If variable, I would turn it up and down to test how it is responding. Try to put your hand over each return to feel the water and surface of pool.

-Take some water, even if the water is crystal clear, and test it. That can reveal a lot.

-Inspect the equipment pad and note any water. What is the water pressure reading? Does it look "normal" if the valves are turned? Again check how the returns feel when you turn valves.

That's about all I can think of?

Maddie :flower:
Thanks for the info and yes a pool inspector is hard to find. I am attempting to post some pictures from my iPhotos but not having luck. The owners are having the pool uncovered and I assume started up, will check on that. Is any pressure testing needed to check for leaks in the plumbing? I do know to look for obvious leaks and to check the water chemistry. Do I only check the pressure on the filter? I have no idea what valves to even check. On current Houston pool I do all the chemistry. I do have someone help with the filter cleaning and any plumbing, heater, etc., questions.
 
Thanks for the info and yes a pool inspector is hard to find. I am attempting to post some pictures from my iPhotos but not having luck. The owners are having the pool uncovered and I assume started up, will check on that. Is any pressure testing needed to check for leaks in the plumbing? I do know to look for obvious leaks and to check the water chemistry. Do I only check the pressure on the filter? I have no idea what valves to even check. On current Houston pool I do all the chemistry. I do have someone help with the filter cleaning and any plumbing, heater, etc., questions.
What I really need is someone to really go over everything to make sure it is in good working order, not at end of life, plumbing and layout, equipment condition, and can evaluate the newish finish. I am getting a regular home inspection but all they will tell you is to have it evaluated by a licensed pool professional. On that note, I also have a HVAC company coming to do all the systems as home inspectors just tell you that it is working or not and only point out obvious problems and then refer you.
 
the sellers are offering to have their company open the pool for the inspection which is very accommodating.
Have this company do an inspection since they are familiar with the pool.

They will be aware of any problems.

Find an independent service person to do an inspection before the first company so that you can compare notes.
 
Have this company do an inspection since they are familiar with the pool.

They will be aware of any problems.

Find an independent service person to do an inspection before the first company so that you can compare notes.
The company opening the pool for the sellers did the remodel work. So yes they would be familiar with the pool. One of my questions to them is was there a warranty for the new finish and work and is it transferable. The problem lies in finding an independent company to compare with that actually does pool inspection. If you were having an inspection done. What would you want them to look at and look for. My daughter had a pool inspection and I could have done it. they didn't know about CSI,
 
Your realtor should be able to to help you track down a pool inspector. Definitely something you want done so any issues can be addressed and/or you get credit for any needed repairs. A good pool inspector will inspect all the equipment - pumps/filters/water features/electrical/pool cleaner/etc as well as condition of the pool, decking, coping, tiling.

I did a quick google search for pool inspectors in the Bentonville area and found a couple. You could ask them if they can provide sample reports or references for work they've done.


One of the reviews of this home inspector said he provided a recommendation of a good pool inspector:
 
Ok here's the update. My daughter that lives in the Bentonville/Rogers area and the realtor have called the company that built the pool, the company servicing the pool, several pool inspection places, most affiliate with home inspection companies or pool builders. Most/all want to a visual inspection, not much detail given.

Not much detail as to what is really included. From watching one done this spring, that didn't look very detailed. they turned everything on, made sure everything turned on and off, walked around, and said it was fine. Did note the equipment brand. This was all done after the regular home inspection was completed where he said all equipment was fine, didn't note any make/models, including the heater. Uh, there was NO heater. So you can see I am a bit worried about the expertise on my inspection this coming Monday.

Here is the summary from the pool inspection service.
Inspection pool needs to be to above Heated 60 degrees and water line above the jet things in girder to test the main drain.
If not heated to 60 degrees then can’t test main drain. Because they dive the pool.
They do not inspect Pool heater: do not pool heater This was main concern as is from 2005/6 and looks dilapidated
Pool inspection is $400 (2 hour minimum) $200 every hour after that if needed

For Leak Testing
Water service line $350 (2 hour minimum) $ 175 after that
Testing process: air or some other equipment didn’t quite get the name.

What do I do, skip it? I can tell if things turn on and off, note model numbers. I have been a member for years and learned from all of you. I have been reading the building forum and I was going to be building in Houston but bought house In Arkansa with a recently remodeled pool. I am not mechanical I really need a list of what to ask a company to inspect and look for before I hire them.
 
I am not mechanical I really need a list of what to ask a company to inspect and look for before I hire them.

I have looked at a bunch of houses and pools over the years for me and my sons.

You need to decide what are showstoppers with the pool that would cause you to walk away from the house. Anything can be fixed with enough money. If you like the house enough and it is the right price then the pool is an add on that comes along at whatever condition it is.

What should be looked at depends on what the house and pool has. You can tell a lot by the general condition of the pool, the equipment pad, how the grounds are kept, if you see any rusting or corrosion, or any leaks. Look at what pool chemicals you see around the house. Is there a pool cleaner in sight? Are there pool brushes around?

I look at the electrical system feeding the pool equipment. Does it look to code? Are there GFCI CBs for the pump, lights and heater? How may circuits are there? Do circuits look overloaded? Does it look like the electrical was done by an electrician or does it show signs of homeowner DIY hacking?

Is the pool and equipment bonded? Can you see the bonding wire? Does the bonding wire make a solid connection to the pump and other equipment?

What type of valves are on the equipment? Diverter valves or ball valves? Is the plumbing and valves labeled? Do the valves show signs of leakage?

If you can run the spa and heater.

Is there an automation system? What control panels are connected to the automation? What does the automation control?

What is the filter pressure? Is the filter pressure reasonable for the pump speed or does it look high and likely the filter has not been tended to in a while?

What is the condition of the pool plaster, tile, grout, coping, and deck? Where is the pool expansion joint and is it properly maintained with mastic?

Look in the skimmer baskets and see if they are clean? Are there baskets in the skimmer? What is the condition of the skimmer(s).

Turn the pool lights on.

If you can take a water sample then check the water chemistry with your test kit.

Most of this you can probably do and have a more critical eye on what is important to you then any inspector would.
 
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I have looked at a bunch of houses and pools over the years for me and my sons.

You need to decide what are showstoppers with the pool that would cause you to walk away from the house. Anything can be fixed with enough money. If you like the house enough and it is the right price then the pool is an add on that comes along at whatever condition it is. I like the house and will buy it just wanting to determine the unknowns more than walking away, unless it was a true disaster, tho I might negotiate if it was, but the is a recent remodel.

What should be looked at depends on what the house and pool has. You can tell a lot by the general condition of the pool, the equipment pad, how the grounds are kept, if you see any rusting or corrosion, or any leaks. Look at what pool chemicals you see around the house. Is there a pool cleaner in sight? Are there pool brushes around? when I saw the house the pool was closed and the winter cover was on. Inspection is on Monday, sellers are having the pool open so I can inspect. The house is nice, recent with in the last year or so, all interior painting, very very clean with 2 little kids too, immaculate. It was late fall so lots of leaves around the pad, as I said recent pool remodel, all decks and patios had recently either been re stamped or stained. All and all the house is well taken care of, they have been there since 2016, this is a corporate transfer, lots of this goes on in this area.

I look at the electrical system feeding the pool equipment. Does it look to code? Are there GFCI CBs for the pump, lights and heater? How may circuits are there? Do circuits look overloaded? Does it look like the electrical was done by an electrician or does it show signs of homeowner DIY hacking? Only new equipment is filter, looks to be sand or DE, also replace one board, the rest is all original 2005/6, the electrical is a mass of boxes and wires, several surge protectors maybe. I have no idea about circuits, I know what valves look like but have never done anything with mine on my current pool which has a cartridge filter.

Is the pool and equipment bonded? Can you see the bonding wire? Does the bonding wire make a solid connection to the pump and other equipment? Was going to look for that at the equipment pad but how can I tell if the pool is bonded.

What type of valves are on the equipment? Diverter valves or ball valves? Is the plumbing and valves labeled? Do the valves show signs of leakage?I know what the Jandy Never Lube look like, didn't see those, concern is old and brittle. I know to look for obvious leaks but the pool will only be on for a short time. That's why I asked if I should have a leak inspection in addition.

If you can run the spa and heater. No spa. Regular pool inspection will not turn on pool heater and will not inspect the heater, and since it looks really bad, and original, that is the most obvious concern.

Is there an automation system? What control panels are connected to the automation? What does the automation control?
What do I look for? There are several different control boxes and panels, more that I would have thought. My pool was built in 09 and has 2 boxes, salt cell and timer for pump and cleaner.
What is the filter pressure? Is the filter pressure reasonable for the pump speed or does it look high and likely the filter has not been tended to in a while? Have that on list to check

What is the condition of the pool plaster, tile, grout, coping, and deck? Where is the pool expansion joint and is it properly maintained with mastic? will do

Look in the skimmer baskets and see if they are clean? Are there baskets in the skimmer? What is the condition of the skimmer(s).will do

Turn the pool lights on.will do

If you can take a water sample then check the water chemistry with your test kit. will do

Most of this you can probably do and have a more critical eye on what is important to you then any inspector would.I just am not sure with all the control boxes I will know how to turn on everything, including this heater, I don't have any automation so I would not know it if I saw it.
One last thing, I have iPhone pictures, if I don't use a service, how do I post them. I am sure those of you used to equipment would recognize some of the pieces.
 

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I found that, daughter took the pictures and I downloaded them from iCloud. I find the pictures but it will not let me select. I will try again in the morning. I appreciate the help. Just not as savvy as I used to be.
 
This pic looks like it came from the AC system. It looks like the pool has a Pentair MiniMax NG heater.

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Sorry for all the separate photos, at least I got them posted. You can ignore the 2nd photo that's and AC. I am not certain what the filter is, the heater is from 2005/6. It looks to be a tablet feeder for chlorine I think. The electrical looks like a maze to me. What do you think.Just got message from sellers realtor, when they went to open pool today the pool pump gauge (for backwash, put etc) broke. They have ordered the part and the pool company opening will be back Monday morning to install and open the pool. Owners have offered to let me have the inspection later Monday or Tuesday. What do you all think of the equipment that is there. Going forward I will be adding a salt cell generator. I know nothing about this filter as I have cartridge now. I might be considering a different pump, it looks original. This area has high electrical rates so I might was a variable speed pump. The owners are telling me the pool is a bit over 7000 gallons. It has 1 bubbler in the sun shelf, no waterfalls, etc.
 

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