plumbing and spillover question

jolla

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Jun 19, 2021
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I'm trying to figure out if there is anything I can or should change here.
I have a pool with a raised spa. Jandy VS e-pump. Jandy PS4 controller.

A diagram of my plumbing is attached.

The "spa return" goes to the 6 return jets in my spa.
The "spa return floor" goes to a single jet in the floor or my spa.

When the pool was first opened a few weeks back, the red-labeled check valve was a 2-way valve. If this was open, and pump OFF, the spa would drain back through the other two return lines into the pool.
If this valve was closed, with the pump ON, there wasn't enough pressure to force the spillover to circulate the spa water back to the pool.
So the guy that opened the pool closed the "spa return floor", and adjusted something to increase the pressure to the normal spa return so the spillover would always run when the pump is ON - without the floor return. (I'm not sure what he adjusted, I thought he said it was in the actuator valve, but not sure that makes sense).

Fast forward to today - pool builder sends a plumber out to fix the original issue. I didn't get to talk to him to know exactly what he did, but he replaced the two-way valve with the the red check valve on "spa return floor" to fix the spa draining problem.
Everything appears to be functioning just like it did when the prior 2-way valve on the "spa return floor" was a CLOSED valve. The spillover seems to be about the same flow.

I'm not sure what the purpose of the "spa return floor" is if it's not to engage the spillover. It seems like that return would optimally have an actuator on it so I can schedule the spillover.

Several questions I guess:
1) What did the pool opener likely adjust to get the spillover to work without the "spa return floor" open? Could he have directed more water through that actuator towards the "spa return", or did just he likely just change the pump speed?

2) Nobody showed me anything about adjusting the VS pump - I assume it always runs at the same output currently. Could I perhaps adjust it up and down to run the spillover or not?

3) Could I (should I) put an actuator on the "spa return floor" so I can control that valve to run the spillover?pool-valves (1).jpg
 
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What automation system do you have controlling your valve actuators?

You need both a check valve to prevent the spa draining and a two way valve to be able to shut off the spillover on the spa floor return.

Post pics of your equipment pad showing the valves and actuator.

The guy changed the cam on the actuator to leave it partially open to get flow through your spa return in POOL mode.

You need to enable SPILLOVER mode on your automation to be able to schedule your spillover.
 
What automation system do you have controlling your valve actuators?

You need both a check valve to prevent the spa draining and a two way valve to be able to shut off the spillover on the spa floor return.

Post pics of your equipment pad showing the valves and actuator.

The guy changed the cam on the actuator to leave it partially open to get flow through your spa return in POOL mode.

You need to enable SPILLOVER mode on your automation to be able to schedule your spillover.
Pics posted above in POOL mode.
It's a Jandy AquaLink RS-PS4 control unit. FWIW - my iAquaLink app doesn't show a SPILLOVER mode on the main screen. Maybe it just wasn't set up.
 
The spillover mode is enabled by flipping switch 3 on the dip switch bank (underneath the cover) on the Aqualink PCB. When you do this, AUX 3 will become SPILLOVER and you will need to move whatever is on AUX 3 to another open aux. In this mode, the automation will drain from the pool and feed to the spa. If you already have 3 accessories, you'll be out of luck on an RS4 (unless you upgrade it with a new PCB or new CPU/PPD).

I really can't make sense out of why yours is plumbed the way it is. Unless I'm looking at it wrong, it looks like you're always feeding water to the pool AND the spa at the same time in POOL mode. The Aqualink natively supports spillover, so I'm not sure why it would be done this way. IMO, if this were my pool I'd put a 2 way valve back in where the "floor return" check valve is now and just leave it closed all the time.
 
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For what it's worth, I just remembered my spa has a "floor return" as well (we don't use it). It was for some sort of fountain thing I think. It's plumbed in similar to yours, except I have a 2 way valve there, just as I was describing above. Mine is always closed and I use the SPILLOVER function on the Aqualink if I want it to do that.
 
You need to do the following:

  • Enable SPILLOVER mode as @dfwnoob described above. For more read Jandy Aqualink RS - Further Reading
  • Replace the check valve in your SPA FLOOR RETURN with a 2 way diverter so you can shut off the water flow to the spa when in POOL mode. That is marked as A in the pic below.
  • In addition your return actuator is currently set for water to flow in both directions in POOL mode. See where the OFF indicator is. The actuator cam needs to be adjusted so that it is 90 degrees to the left to turn off the SPA RETURN when in POOL mode.
Once you do those things your spillover will not run when in POOL mode. Then you can set a schedule for AUX3 to run your spillover twice a day for 15-30 minutes. I run mine at 9AM and 2PM.

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Awesome - thanks guys. So I messed up by having them replace the 2-way diverter valve they previously had on the "spa return bottom" with a check valve.

I have a blower pump on AUX1, lights on AUX2, and an electrical outlet controlled by AUX3 into which I plug in a Stenner chlorine pump to automate.
Ugh. If only the pool builder knew how all this stuff works. I told him from day 1 that I wanted to wire in the Stenner pump, so he knew I needed an extra AUX.
I've been telling him for a month I'd like to be able to schedule the spillover - he doesn't seem to be aware there's a way to do it - or doesn't want to tell me.


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You then move your electrical outlet to AUX4 by plugong the AUX3 rely into the AUX4 socket.

The SPILLOVER mode uses AUX3 but does not use the relay and the socket can be empty.

Make sure the firmware version of the CPU borad you get is equal to or higher then what you have now.
 
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