PH question

[ajw22]

I will do this as soon as I get back home. I also need to double check on Aux3 because when I looked at my IAquaLink app just now it seems Aux3 may be setup as my spa light.

See in this thread how the pool and spa lights were combined to free up AUX3…

Set up spillover

Hi I'm trying to set up spillover mode on my Jandy Aqualink RS4. Currently the spa runs once a day but just recycles the water from the spa to the filter and back to the spa (normal spa mode) I'd like spillover set to run 2x a day to keep the water in both at the same FC/PH. I've been reading...

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[hensler74]

First - when you turn on Spa Mode - do both automated valves rotate? One automated valve on suction (in front of the pump) and the second is the automated valve on the return line past your SWCG). Let us know if both rotate and if so which direction when in SPA mode and if they rotate back when switched to POOL Mode.

Both valves do turn when going to spa mode and turn back to original positions when put back in pool mode. I attached pictures of positions they were in for each mode.

 

[ajw22]

This valve is the problem. It is set to turn 90 degrees from the SPA position and leaves water flowing to both the pool and spa. The actuator cam needs to be adjusted so it turns 180 degrees and closes the spa return line when in pool mode.

 

[hensler74]

This valve is the problem. It is set to turn 90 degrees from the SPA position and leaves water flowing to both the pool and spa. The actuator cam needs to be adjusted so it turns 180 degrees and closes the spa return line when in pool mode.

So how do I do this? I may be wrong in saying that is pool mode as well as I only have filter pump and spa mode on my settings. I have always just called it pool mode. Also should I go ahead and use Aux3 as spillover as well? If so I read you link to how to move the spa light to Aux2 with the pool light but are there any wires I need to move to Aux3 for the spillover?

 

[ajw22]

So how do I do this?

See page 7 in https://www.jandy.com/-/media/zodiac/global/downloads/h/h0570800.pdf

I may be wrong in saying that is pool mode as well as I only have filter pump and spa mode on my settings. I have always just called it pool mode.

If you are not in SPA mode then you are in POOL MODE.

Also should I go ahead and use Aux3 as spillover as well?

One goes with the other. If you reset the actuator position then you need to use SPILLOVER mode scheduled to keep the spa chlorinated.

If so I read you link to how to move the spa light to Aux2 with the pool light but are there any wires I need to move to Aux3 for the spillover?

No, just flip dipswitch 3 ON once the spa light is moved off of AUX3.

 

[hensler74]

One goes with the other. If you reset the actuator position then you need to use SPILLOVER mode scheduled to keep the spa chlorinated.

I am guessing the pool builder setup this valve to do this since the spa light is on Aux3 and not using spillover.

See page 7 in https://www.jandy.com/-/media/zodiac/global/downloads/h/h0570800.pdf

I will read through this once I come to switching Aux3 to spillover so I can fix the cam position properly.

Thanks for all your replies and help on this.

 

[ajw22]

I am guessing the pool builder setup this valve to do this since the spa light is on Aux3 and not using spillover.

I am guessing the Pool Builder is clueless about automation and SPILLOVER mode and set your pool up the way he has been doing it forever.

 

[hensler74]

I am guessing the Pool Builder is clueless about automation and SPILLOVER mode and set your pool up the way he has been doing it forever.

I am with you on that and guessing the previous two owners never really did much for readings and stuff other than hire a company to maintain them or use a pool store like I did the first two summers. TFP has been a blessing for me this summer.

 

[HermanTX]

I will do this as soon as I get back home. I also need to double check on Aux3 because when I looked at my IAquaLink app just now it seems Aux3 may be setup as my spa light.

You can always put the pool light and the spa light on the same Aux function.
I am curious as to what type of cleaner do you have? Does it have a booster pump?

Your labels on the front of the Aqualink control board shows Filter Pump, then Aux 1 is Light and Aux 2 is Cleaner and nothing is labeled for Aux 3 but as you said, it could be the spa light.

Based on your pictures when you went into SPA mode - the valves were correct i.e. the actuator closed off the pool suction and only had suction from the spa. And on the return the pool return was closed off and only return to the spa.

As discussed by Allen - when in Pool Mode the actuator on the return side is only rotating 90 deg and it should rotate 180 deg so that needs to be corrected if you wish to use Spill Over mode correctly.

 

[hensler74]

I am curious as to what type of cleaner do you have? Does it have a booster pump?

Polaris 180 is the cleaner and yes there is a booster pump.

nothing is labeled for Aux 3 but as you said, it could be the spa light.

I did confirm that Aux3 is the spa light but I am going to change that soon.

As discussed by Alan - when in Pool Mode the actuator on the return side is only rotating 90 deg and it should rotate 180 deg so that needs to be corrected if you wish to use Spill Over mode correctly.

Once I remove the spa light from Aux3 I will be fixing the actuator and start using the spillover. Just got to take the time to do it all and do all the reading to make sure I am doing it all correctly.

 

[HermanTX]

Polaris 180 is the cleaner and yes there is a booster pump.

I don’t want to add to your issues but is your Cleaner working fine and you can schedule it?

If you notice on the layout of the computer board the AUX 1 is set up to use the Cleaner. I have the same Jandy Automation system and I have a booster pump for same cleaner. My dip switch is set to ON and my booster pump is wired to AUX 1. This ensure the main filter pump is on when the booster pump is scheduled to turn on and run your cleaner.

Maybe we can look at this later or if yours is working then leave it alone. Maybe @ajw22 has some views on this. To me it appears your booster pump should be connected to AUX 1 with dip switch on.

 

[ajw22]

Pressure cleaner with booster pump should be controlled by AUX1 with dipswitch #1 on.

Dip switch #1 makes AUX1 be labeled CLEANER on the display and ensures the booster pump will only run when the filter pump is on.

Jandy Aqualink RS - Further Reading

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[hensler74]

I don’t want to add to your issues but is your Cleaner working fine and you can schedule it?

If you notice on the layout of the computer board the AUX 1 is set up to use the Cleaner. I have the same Jandy Automation system and I have a booster pump for same cleaner. My dip switch is set to ON and my booster pump is wired to AUX 1. This ensure the main filter pump is on when the booster pump is scheduled to turn on and run your cleaner.

Maybe we can look at this later or if yours is working then leave it alone. Maybe @ajw22 has some views on this. To me it appears your booster pump should be connected to AUX 1 with dip switch on.

Sorry got busy yesterday and then work today and just now replying. Just my cleaner is working fine and is on a schedule. When I open my app I can turn it off and on and it is on a schedule as well. Pics of app attached

Not going to say that this means it is wired correctly because I believe I am able to turn on the cleaner and the filter pump not be on.

 

[HermanTX]

Sorry got busy yesterday and then work today and just now replying. Just my cleaner is working fine and is on a schedule. When I open my app I can turn it off and on and it is on a schedule as well. Pics of app attached

Not going to say that this means it is wired correctly because I believe I am able to turn on the cleaner and the filter pump not be on.

Based on your schedule the filter pump is on when you have your cleaner (booster pump) scheduled so that will work fine.
What speed do you have set for your pump when when the cleaner is on?
Can you screen shot your pump speed screen?

My thought is if you would turn your cleaner on at 9pm on Wednesday (when you have your filter pump scheduled to be off), the booster pump would turn on and filter pump will NOT turn on, so your cleaner is not very effective.

I also have to say - running your cleaner 5 hrs every day seems excessive. That is, unless your pool is susceptible to be very dirty (lots of leaves or other debris). I run mine 1 hr every second day during the summer and my pool is slightly larger than yours. In the Fall I will increase that to daily.

 

[hensler74]

Based on your schedule the filter pump is on when you have your cleaner (booster pump) scheduled so that will work fine.
What speed do you have set for your pump when when the cleaner is on?
Can you screen shot your pump speed screen?

Yes filter pump is on the same time as the cleaner. My pump is single speed only so I don’t get to select pump speed when cleaner is on.

My thought is if you would turn your cleaner on at 9pm on Wednesday (when you have your filter pump scheduled to be off), the booster pump would turn on and filter pump will NOT turn on, so your cleaner is not very effective.

Not sure I am following on this one as I thought I want the filter pump on when the cleaner is on.

I also have to say - running your cleaner 5 hrs every day seems excessive. That is, unless your pool is susceptible to be very dirty (lots of leaves or other debris). I run mine 1 hr every second day during the summer and my pool is slightly larger than yours. In the Fall I will increase that to daily

I have never adjusted the cleaner time as this is what the previous owner had it set on already so I have always left it. If it is excessive I will definitely adjust as that would do nothing but save wear and tear on my cleaner, booster and energy bill. I will play with adjusting the run time and see what keeps it clean. Thanks for that information.

 

[HermanTX]

Not sure I am following on this one as I thought I want the filter pump on when the cleaner is on.

I was trying to point out that since the booster pump is not connected to AUX 1 and the dip switch is not activiated then that booster pump is just set up as any additional pump. So if you would turn it on when the filter pump is not on, then the booster pump will turn on but not be effective because the filter pump was not told to turn on.

The dip switch for booster pump (called CLEANER) is set up such that if AUX 1 is ever scheduled or manually turned on, then the filter pump will also turn on.

What you have scheduled is working because you scheduled your booster pump to only operate when the filter pump is on. So if you every manually turn on your booster pump outside of your filter pump schedule, then you have to also manually turn on your filter pump.

This is not critical but just so you know and if you want to ever change it then come back and ask for help.

 

[hensler74]

I was trying to point out that since the booster pump is not connected to AUX 1 and the dip switch is not activiated then that booster pump is just set up as any additional pump. So if you would turn it on when the filter pump is not on, then the booster pump will turn on but not be effective because the filter pump was not told to turn on.

The dip switch for booster pump (called CLEANER) is set up such that if AUX 1 is ever scheduled or manually turned on, then the filter pump will also turn on.

What you have scheduled is working because you scheduled your booster pump to only operate when the filter pump is on. So if you every manually turn on your booster pump outside of your filter pump schedule, then you have to also manually turn on your filter pump.

This is not critical but just so you know and if you want to ever change it then come back and ask for help.

Gotcha I will probably fix this when I fix everything else on the Aux setup.