Pentair microbite led white/color installation question (Water in Conduit).

[Fouroaks347]

I have a new pool being installed, and the pool has two pentair micro brite led lights. I noticed a leak from the conduit from one of the lights, and upon further inspection I noticed another piece of pvc conduit seems to have not had the joint glued enough and is dripping water.

Should the lights be watertight not allowing water into the conduit? I am sure the water can somewhat be removed from the conduit when the one fitting is repaired.

It wouldn’t be an issue if the lights should be watertight and the conduit shouldn’t hold water.

Final question is the frost zone in my area is 4’ and the conduit follows on top of the concrete fitting about 38” below the pool walls. If this holds water won't it freeze and potentially break?

Thank you!

 

[Texas Splash]

Good morning. Thought it was time to follow up since I'm not sure if you learned anything more on your end other than this post. While the conduit for LED lights might be dry at install, at some point water could access the conduit if/when the LED fixture is removed for maintenance or repair. It should be okay as the light cable is shielded and the conduit line runs up to a junction box at the pad. That J-box is a specified distance above ground just like a conventional pool light so it can't reach the electrical source.

Now if the conduit is continuously leaking, it sounds like you may have a problem at the light fixture itself where a gasket should prevent water from seeping through. If that's the case, it should be inspected.

As for the frost issue, many people wit LED lights simply close like normal and don't do anything with the LEDs. But some manufactures have specific requirements about prepping for winter. I don't recall Pentair's guidance though. Maye others will reply soon since it's getting close to that time of year.

 

[Fouroaks347]

Good morning. Thought it was time to follow up since I'm not sure if you learned anything more on your end other than this post. While the conduit for LED lights might be dry at install, at some point water could access the conduit if/when the LED fixture is removed for maintenance or repair. It should be okay as the light cable is shielded and the conduit line runs up to a junction box at the pad. That J-box is a specified distance above ground just like a conventional pool light so it can't reach the electrical source.

Now if the conduit is continuously leaking, it sounds like you may have a problem at the light fixture itself where a gasket should prevent water from seeping through. If that's the case, it should be inspected.

As for the frost issue, many people wit LED lights simply close like normal and don't do anything with the LEDs. But some manufactures have specific requirements about prepping for winter. I don't recall Pentair's guidance though. Maye others will reply soon since it's getting close to that time of year.

Thank you for the reply. I understand the idea that you are explaining. In my case, after further inspection the light had a crack in it where it seals to the housing allowing a continuous flow of water into the conduit which also has a leak.

Unfortunately the pool builder decided to not allow the electrician the 24 hours requested to schedule and complete the rework and the pool builder buried the leaking conduit against my instructions to not proceed.

I requested they dig out the area that needed the repair, and at first they agreed and now are not willing to dig but to force the electrician to run the conduit at 12-16” below final elevation.

Again I live in an area with a frost zone of 4’ so this really worries me. I foresee the conduit cracking if there is water in it at 16” or less.

Temps tires in February go to -5 for 2-3 weeks almost each year.

Thoughts on how to proceed?

 

[Texas Splash]

Wow. Your builder isn't doing you any favors huh. I would be concerned about that conduit depth as well. I'm not sure there is an alternative other than repairing the circuit and setting it closer to the frost line. Just in case, I'll ask @1poolman1 for another opinion.