Hg433
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Yes, CC should be 0.5 or less as per the exit criteria conditions. And With your progress you will reach there sooner than later.
Newbie: Time to fix this green pool
- Thread starter idle_furiouso
- Start date
Tue, July 16 - all pool events for the day
6:40a - 8 gal Cl
* disregarding my morning chemical readings, bc I think I wasn't scooping water deep enough)
9:44a - 13.5 PSI, 18 FC, 40 CYA
10:17a - 17 FC
10:20a - 1 gal 10% Cl (preventive, as I needed to run to store to pickup new telescoping pole, mine broke)
10:55a - 13.5 PSI, 15 FC
11:00a - 5 gal Cl
11:16 - 30 FC
11:49 - 14 psi
1:30p - 14.5 psi, 22 FC
1:53p - 2 gal 10% Cl
4:00p - 16.5 psi, backwashed, 21.5 FC, added water (getting low!), 1 gal 10% cl
4:35p - 13 psi, 22 FC
6:36p - 13 psi, 17.5FC, 3 gal Cl
Total 20 gal of Chlorine. I don't know if that's a lot, but it seems like it!
And that's it for the night. I tried really hard to be on site to keep things elevated. Tomorrow I'm not as available, so I may err on the side of adding extra Chlorine when I'm able to get there.
6:40a - 8 gal Cl
* disregarding my morning chemical readings, bc I think I wasn't scooping water deep enough)
9:44a - 13.5 PSI, 18 FC, 40 CYA
10:17a - 17 FC
10:20a - 1 gal 10% Cl (preventive, as I needed to run to store to pickup new telescoping pole, mine broke)
10:55a - 13.5 PSI, 15 FC
11:00a - 5 gal Cl
11:16 - 30 FC
11:49 - 14 psi
1:30p - 14.5 psi, 22 FC
1:53p - 2 gal 10% Cl
4:00p - 16.5 psi, backwashed, 21.5 FC, added water (getting low!), 1 gal 10% cl
4:35p - 13 psi, 22 FC
6:36p - 13 psi, 17.5FC, 3 gal Cl
Total 20 gal of Chlorine. I don't know if that's a lot, but it seems like it!
And that's it for the night. I tried really hard to be on site to keep things elevated. Tomorrow I'm not as available, so I may err on the side of adding extra Chlorine when I'm able to get there.
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- Jun 22, 2014
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- CircuPool RJ-45 Plus
Good morning! 
It's great to see you are holding FC levels MUCH better. Now you should start to see some real progress. Good work. 
Based on your crazy schedule and time away from the pool, you seem to be doing much better. Keep it up! The FC level "should" start to stabilize more for you throughout the day. Do you r best to stick with it. The water is definitely changing for the better.
As for the spa, yours is set up as an extension of the pool. Basically it looks like you should be opening your return valve (after the filter) to continuously allow water to flow into the spa and spill-over back into the pool. You can adjust how much water to flow to the spa. It doesn't have to be full blast, but you do want water going in there and continuously circulating then pouring out of the spillway. They share the same body of water, so they both need to be treated during the SLAM Process. Hope that makes sense.
It's great to see you are holding FC levels MUCH better. Now you should start to see some real progress. Good work. Based on your crazy schedule and time away from the pool, you seem to be doing much better. Keep it up! The FC level "should" start to stabilize more for you throughout the day. Do you r best to stick with it. The water is definitely changing for the better.As for the spa, yours is set up as an extension of the pool. Basically it looks like you should be opening your return valve (after the filter) to continuously allow water to flow into the spa and spill-over back into the pool. You can adjust how much water to flow to the spa. It doesn't have to be full blast, but you do want water going in there and continuously circulating then pouring out of the spillway. They share the same body of water, so they both need to be treated during the SLAM Process. Hope that makes sense.
Can you show me (draw on one of my pictures?) which one that is - just want to make sure I get it right. Also, this makes sense. Yesterday I actually starting stirring up and pushing water through the spillway as much as I could. I guess that was spot on and I didn't even know it. It just feels so stagnant in there.
Is there any harm in keeping FC levels too high? I feel like we have plenty of sun down in TX so if that happens it will get burned off, but just checking as I'd rather err on the side of too much chlorine rather than not enough at this point.
Here's what I understand of the piping... everythign after the filter I'm very confused!
- Jun 22, 2014
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I'm on the road right now. Let me see if @Jimrahbe can clarify that for you to get water pushing to the spa.
Your return valve in in the yellow circle.. I 'think' as you have one heck of a mess... 
Opening this valve a little should let some water go into your spa.. Try it, you can't hurt anything. If it does not send water to your spa, just put it back as is..
Thanks,
Jim R.
Opening this valve a little should let some water go into your spa.. Try it, you can't hurt anything. If it does not send water to your spa, just put it back as is..
Thanks,
Jim R.
Thank you @Jimrahbe . I was multitasking when I read your message (and missed the part about "partially"). I actually opened it up all the way, but I don't think I saw a noticeable difference (if at tall). I was unsure and remember you said "it won't hurt", so I have left it that way (just to see if it makes any difference) and won't be able to get back for about 2 hours. Eep! Now i'm paranoid I did something I shouldn't have. Please talk me off the ledge...Your return valve in in the yellow circle.. I 'think' as you have one heck of a mess...
Opening this valve a little should let some water go into your spa.. Try it, you can't hurt anything. If it does not send water to your spa, just put it back as is..
Thanks,
Jim R.
Also, I attached a better view of that side of the equipment. There are a couple more valves that are closed.
I am assuming that your spa is made to spillover and into your pool, when in the Pool mode..
In the pic with the yellow circle, the Return valve is set to not allow any water to go to the Spa.
By opening the valve a little, some water should go past the Return valve and then back to the spa.
Your new pic shows that there a couple of ways for the water to flow back to the spa (I'm assuming here..)
The top pipe has an open Jandy valve and then just one pipe going into the ground.. I assume this pipe is going back to the spa. If not. where could it be going??
The bottom pipe has a closed Jandy valve that will not allow any water to pass.. If you open that valve then water can only flow down the open pipe, the other pipe has a closed Jandy valve.. I assume that both of these pipes go to the spa.. I have no clue what the two Jandy valve are for???
I can only make an educated guess where the pipes go.. You are there and it would be up to you to open and close the valves and see what water goes where..
You have a second pump (The one on the left..) that I assume is a pump for the spa jets.. That pump should only run when you are in the Spa mode.. On the output side of that pump is another Jandy valve.. When in the pool mode you should try closing it and see if it make any spillover difference.
Thanks,
Jim R.
In the pic with the yellow circle, the Return valve is set to not allow any water to go to the Spa.
By opening the valve a little, some water should go past the Return valve and then back to the spa.
Your new pic shows that there a couple of ways for the water to flow back to the spa (I'm assuming here..)
The top pipe has an open Jandy valve and then just one pipe going into the ground.. I assume this pipe is going back to the spa. If not. where could it be going??
The bottom pipe has a closed Jandy valve that will not allow any water to pass.. If you open that valve then water can only flow down the open pipe, the other pipe has a closed Jandy valve.. I assume that both of these pipes go to the spa.. I have no clue what the two Jandy valve are for???
I can only make an educated guess where the pipes go.. You are there and it would be up to you to open and close the valves and see what water goes where..
You have a second pump (The one on the left..) that I assume is a pump for the spa jets.. That pump should only run when you are in the Spa mode.. On the output side of that pump is another Jandy valve.. When in the pool mode you should try closing it and see if it make any spillover difference.
Thanks,
Jim R.
@Jimrahbe thanks for some insight and suggestions, I will play around with some of these tomorrow and see what happens. I just want to make sure, I'm not going to hurt/break anything by doing this, am I? It's a bit scary not know what valves control what and what will happen if I turn/change them.
Notes from Wed, July 17
8a - 7 FC (
seriously?) / 14 psi / 6 gal Cl
9:20a - 29.5 FC / 14 psi / 1 gal Cl
11:15a - 27.5 FC / 14 psi / 2 gal Cl
2:50p - 24 FC / 18 psi / backwashed / 3 gal Cl
6:52p - 23 FC / 17 psi / backwashed / 7 gal Cl (hope that keeps it elevated thru the night)
Total - 19 gal Cl
Notes from Wed, July 17
8a - 7 FC (
seriously?) / 14 psi / 6 gal Cl9:20a - 29.5 FC / 14 psi / 1 gal Cl
11:15a - 27.5 FC / 14 psi / 2 gal Cl
2:50p - 24 FC / 18 psi / backwashed / 3 gal Cl
6:52p - 23 FC / 17 psi / backwashed / 7 gal Cl (hope that keeps it elevated thru the night)
Total - 19 gal Cl
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Hi guys! Sorry, it's been busy, but I've been doing my best to keep up. Here are my stats from the last 2 days. The water is looking better... however: CYA is 50 and I'm obviously erring on high chlorine at the moment. Also, the water is still cloudy. It's more of a blueish color finally, but cloudy cloudy cloudy. I don't think there is anything really for me to brush but I just keep brushing... I guess there could be, but I just can't see it. Also, I learned that the Jandy valve circled in yellow (previous post) moves the spa water into the big pool. Who knew? It actually really helped clean out the spa (even if it was an accident).
What's best course of action here? Just keep doing what I am doing? Try to lower CYA? How can I clear up this water?
Also, what are these blue tubes in the spa (see attachment) - sure wouldn't want to sit on the tube sticking out of that one corner!
Thur July 18 - 9 gal Cl total
8a - 24.5 FC / 1 gal Cl
9:30a - 25.5 FC
12:20a - 20 FC / 4 gal Cl
4:30p - 27 FC
6:30p - 23 FC / 4 gal Cl
Fri July 19 - 6 gal Cl total
6:30a - 25.5 FC / 1 gal Cl
9:30a - 26 FC / 1 gal Cl
12:45p - 23.5 FC / 2 gal Cl
6:30p - 26.5 FC / 2 gal Cl
What's best course of action here? Just keep doing what I am doing? Try to lower CYA? How can I clear up this water?
Also, what are these blue tubes in the spa (see attachment) - sure wouldn't want to sit on the tube sticking out of that one corner!
Thur July 18 - 9 gal Cl total
8a - 24.5 FC / 1 gal Cl
9:30a - 25.5 FC
12:20a - 20 FC / 4 gal Cl
4:30p - 27 FC
6:30p - 23 FC / 4 gal Cl
Fri July 19 - 6 gal Cl total
6:30a - 25.5 FC / 1 gal Cl
9:30a - 26 FC / 1 gal Cl
12:45p - 23.5 FC / 2 gal Cl
6:30p - 26.5 FC / 2 gal Cl
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- Jun 22, 2014
- 52,024
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- 17888
- Surface
- Fiberglass
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- CircuPool RJ-45 Plus
I would continue with the SLAM Process. Watch the filter pressure as well and clean as needed. I don't understand those spa returns either.
Maybe @Jimrahbe will know.Filter pressure has been good. Should I try to lower CYA?I would continue with the SLAM Process. Watch the filter pressure as well and clean as needed. I don't understand those spa returns either.
- Jun 22, 2014
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- CircuPool RJ-45 Plus
I would not. 50 is not bad, so maintaining the FC of 20 is reasonable. Be sure to stick to the SLAM article though for a daily reminder of things to keep doing. You'll get it.
Random question: I am hoping to buy a Dolphin pretty soon. Would it be safe/wise to let the robot run in these conditions? I don't see any algae (again, it's cloudy blue color), just a lot a fine particles that I'm waiting to be filtered out.
I also read about this ^ but I can't be around monitoring the psi 24 hours as recommended. Recommended or no?
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Previous notes:
Wed July 17 - 19 gal
Thur July 18 - 9 gal
Fri July 19 - 6 gal
New notes:
Sat July 20 - 4 gal
6:45a - 23.5 FC / 1 gal Cl
11:30 - 26 FC
4:00p - 22.5 FC / 3 gal Cl
Sun July 21 - 2 gal
7:30a - 31 FC
1:15p - 24 FC
5:30p - 18.5 FC / 2 gal (hoping this is enough through the night... think I'll be cutting it close)
Things are improving based solely on the amount of Cl needed to maintain FC. How long can I expect it to take for the water to start clearing up? Still cloudy... Is there anything I can do proactively?
Wed July 17 - 19 gal
Thur July 18 - 9 gal
Fri July 19 - 6 gal
New notes:
Sat July 20 - 4 gal
6:45a - 23.5 FC / 1 gal Cl
11:30 - 26 FC
4:00p - 22.5 FC / 3 gal Cl
Sun July 21 - 2 gal
7:30a - 31 FC
1:15p - 24 FC
5:30p - 18.5 FC / 2 gal (hoping this is enough through the night... think I'll be cutting it close)
Things are improving based solely on the amount of Cl needed to maintain FC. How long can I expect it to take for the water to start clearing up? Still cloudy... Is there anything I can do proactively?
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- Jun 22, 2014
- 52,024
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- SWG Type
- CircuPool RJ-45 Plus
No problem. Maybe give it a good rinse once you're done though.
- Jun 22, 2014
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Stick with it. Water looks like it's about to make another transition soon to a more blue color.
Previous notes:
Wed July 17 - 19 gal
Thur July 18 - 9 gal
Fri July 19 - 6 gal
Sat July 20 - 4 gal
Sun July 21 - 2 gal
Today's notes:
Monday Jul 22 - 3.5 gal
6:30a - 21 FC / 2 gal
9:50a - 23 FC / 1 gal
2:05p - 30 FC
6:20p - 23 FC / .5 gal
Also, just purchased a Dolphin today and inserted the ultra fine filters because want to get this particle picked up. Only had time to run it for 2 hours, but will see what else it gets tomorrow. I attached pic of the sediment it picked up. Is this dead algae? This is what is definitely floating around making everything cloudy. :/
Last question of the day... it looks like I'm averaging about 3 gallons of chlorine a day the last couple days. Is this still a lot? I can't imagine keeping this up all summer, but surely there isn't any algae left - is there?
Wed July 17 - 19 gal
Thur July 18 - 9 gal
Fri July 19 - 6 gal
Sat July 20 - 4 gal
Sun July 21 - 2 gal
Today's notes:
Monday Jul 22 - 3.5 gal
6:30a - 21 FC / 2 gal
9:50a - 23 FC / 1 gal
2:05p - 30 FC
6:20p - 23 FC / .5 gal
Also, just purchased a Dolphin today and inserted the ultra fine filters because want to get this particle picked up. Only had time to run it for 2 hours, but will see what else it gets tomorrow. I attached pic of the sediment it picked up. Is this dead algae? This is what is definitely floating around making everything cloudy. :/
Last question of the day... it looks like I'm averaging about 3 gallons of chlorine a day the last couple days. Is this still a lot? I can't imagine keeping this up all summer, but surely there isn't any algae left - is there?
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- Jun 22, 2014
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- CircuPool RJ-45 Plus
Perhaps. Looks like some other silt or debris as well. Good you were able to grab it.
Not necessarily. I don't see an pool info to compare it to since your signature and profile info don't list any pool info. Perhaps in your earlier posts it says something, but I don't want to lose my place here. It sure would help to see your signature info populated.
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