New User - Doing first drain - What do I need to know?
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BattleOfYakima
TFP Guide
Thank you for making the time to write up your story, taking the photos, and making the videos too! I enjoyed all of them. Kudos on the pro editing job too. Your brave attitude, ingenuity, and cooperative wife have yielded you a manageable pool! Be sure to check your test kit for anything that has gone bad or that you are low on. I foresee a SLAM on your immediate future!
Awesome, smart jack! Thanks so much for taking pictures and documenting it well. I'm sorry I didn't think to suggest it at the beginning of your thread, but we always have to be a bit cautious about recommending things for which we only have a few anecdotal reports because TFP operates on a "less is more" and "bulletproof" approach.
When you have a sec, please share any tips you have to make the process smooth and risk free.
Also, did you already have the tarp? Was it cheaper than visqueen or just less hassle because you didn't need to make seams?
Kudos on an awesome job. Your slam should be a short one!
Cheers to clear
When you have a sec, please share any tips you have to make the process smooth and risk free.
Also, did you already have the tarp? Was it cheaper than visqueen or just less hassle because you didn't need to make seams?
Kudos on an awesome job. Your slam should be a short one!
Cheers to clear
Yes, I will start the SLAM today. I have read the SLAM procedure, and pool school, but still have 2 minor questions. This is because for the 8 years I've owned the pool, I've used DiChlor for EVERYTHING, and have never used liquid chlorine.
1- Most of the posts I've read about adding liquid chlorine say to pour it in by a inlet jet. Is this the BEST place? I understand that this allows the chlorine to quickly mix with that incoming water, and to move it away from the pool edge. But, why not pour it into the skimmer? Pouring in the skimmer gets it mixed with water in the PVC pipes, and pump, before hitting the pool (and in my case liner). Is this high concentration of chlorine bad for the pump, heater, filter, by going into the skimmer?
2- After pouring in the chlorine, how long does it take to completely mix? From posts, it seems to be fairly quickly. But, should I wait 10 minutes, or an hour? If my FC is 2, and I want to pour in enough to get it to let's say 7, how long will it take for that level to register? Pool math tells me how much to add, but not how long it would take to show up once added.
For the couple of questions about the trap method, I will respond after work. But, I plan to make a donation to TFP, and become a supporter. Once I do that, and get more attachment space, maybe I will do a write up detailing the entire process, without all the other junk that is in this thread. It will also include pictures of each step in the thread, instead of Dropbox, since those files won't be there forever. Then, if this comes up again, there will be a dedicated, no nonsense thread to point to. I doubt it needs to be a sticky.
1). Liquid chlorine/bleach has a pretty high pH straight out of the jug. Adding that to your skimmer and sending through your equipment is not advised for that reason.
2). The usual recommendation is to wait 30 minutes. My pool takes a good hour to mix. I did an experiment where I made an addition in the evening (no sun), and then tested every 15 minutes until there was no further rise in FC so that I would know my pool's timing. Each pool is different.
2). The usual recommendation is to wait 30 minutes. My pool takes a good hour to mix. I did an experiment where I made an addition in the evening (no sun), and then tested every 15 minutes until there was no further rise in FC so that I would know my pool's timing. Each pool is different.
From my reading in Pool School, I thought an advantage of LC was that it was PH neutral. If it is PH neutral to the water, why would that be an issue?
I see that awesome badge by your name! THANKS!
That would be neat if you would write it up and share it!
Kim:cat:
That would be neat if you would write it up and share it!
Kim:cat:
This site sent me a LOT of help and support, and I'm just sending it back........
It's pH neutral once it's mixed into the pool water. But it's initially high and then drops. So it's high in the skimmer, pump and filter, and then mostly neutral by the time it gets to the pool.
Chlorine "straight out of the jug" has a high pH. The amount of chlorine added directly into the pool compared to the volume of water in the pool makes liquid chlorine effectively pH neutral in terms of overall pool chemistry. I hope that explains it.
I believe you are supposed to pour it by the OUTlet, it pushes it around the pool faster and keeps it from settling in one spot.
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Some people call the thing that lets water back into the pool, inlets. Since the pool is the thing and the water is going into it. We call them returns to indicate that the water is returning into the pool.
I wanted everything to circulate, and new water to fully combine with old, before I posted numbers and started my SLAM. And, the numbers are:
FC-10
CC-0
PH-7.6
TA-120
CH-110
CYA-45
Pool is not exactly "clear" but I can see the main drains in the 8 foot end.
FC-10
CC-0
PH-7.6
TA-120
CH-110
CYA-45
Pool is not exactly "clear" but I can see the main drains in the 8 foot end.
BattleOfYakima
TFP Guide
Congratulations on going bronze! Congratulations on those test results!!! Your hard work looks to have paid off brilliantly! A diligent SLAM and your pool will officially be on the TFP savings plan! No more buckets of pain for you! No more endless dichlor! Congrats!
I pour the liquid slowly with the water that is going back into the pool after being filtered, whatever you wish to call it. I figure that water is going to move around pretty well. I also try to brush immediately after adding, at least the bottom quickly if not the sides too. Doesn't take too long to agitate the bottom half heatedly but it sure does seem to help the FC have easy access to everything.
I pour the liquid slowly with the water that is going back into the pool after being filtered, whatever you wish to call it. I figure that water is going to move around pretty well. I also try to brush immediately after adding, at least the bottom quickly if not the sides too. Doesn't take too long to agitate the bottom half heatedly but it sure does seem to help the FC have easy access to everything.
Nice job on the CYA!!! Call it 50. As soon as the FC drops below 10, retest that pH and then adjust it to 7.2-7.4. When that is done, start your slam maintaining your FC at 20ppm.
That is quite impressive the work you have done to get your CYA down. Congrats! The rest is all downhill, especially after you finish your SLAM