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Thanks. I think my circulation will work well.

Poolcrete bottom goes in today and liner tomorrow. Then we start filling!!!

Unfortunately, that is probably where it will stop for the next 5 months or so. It's supposed to snow this weekend and the builder is away for the holiday next week. He can't pour the concrete deck unless there are 5 days of temps above freezing and that's rare around here in December. So we'll have a muddy, unfinished backyard until spring :| On the positive side...he is not going to try and rush it and pour in cold weather anyway (which can be done but is not ideal).

I'm off to research equipment again. We are not buying it until spring so I have some time. Was planning on all Jandy (and Jandy automation) but might consider switching to Pentair (and Pentair automation).

I guess another positive is that the ground will have a chance to settle before they do the decking!
 
Liner showed up this morning. Unfortunately, Lathem used the wrong drawing so we have a liner that doesn't fit our pool. Today and tomorrow look like the last warm days for a while so builder is now concerned if/when he can get the new liner installed (which takes a few days to make). They are putting the incorrect liner in the pool temporarily to protect the pool-crete bottom.

Looking more and more like I should've started sooner or waited until spring...



 
Sorry to hear that:( I'm going through the exact same thing. My Latham liner went in last week, and it was cut wrong for my bench. My pool builder told me to go ahead and start filling, so I did. He said if it still looks bad he would take pics and or get a rep out to look at it. Its been full since last Friday, skimmer and light are cut, but not the returns. If it was just the bench, I would have been torn whether to keep it or not. However, there are about 12 big wrinkles as well, and a big rock under the liner ( not Lathams fault) I'm hoping my PB gets a rep out to look at it asap. The temps are going to be in the 20's for days, and I don't know what will happen since it it not operational yet.
Its so frustrating for sure!!!! I hope everything works out for you!
 
Did your PB already contact Latham? Will a rep need to come out?
Veccster said:
Liner showed up this morning. Unfortunately, Lathem used the wrong drawing so we have a liner that doesn't fit our pool. Today and tomorrow look like the last warm days for a while so builder is now concerned if/when he can get the new liner installed (which takes a few days to make). They are putting the incorrect liner in the pool temporarily to protect the pool-crete bottom.

Looking more and more like I should've started sooner or waited until spring...



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Sparker said:
Sorry to hear that:( I'm going through the exact same thing. My Latham liner went in last week, and it was cut wrong for my bench. My pool builder told me to go ahead and start filling, so I did. He said if it still looks bad he would take pics and or get a rep out to look at it. Its been full since last Friday, skimmer and light are cut, but not the returns. If it was just the bench, I would have been torn whether to keep it or not. However, there are about 12 big wrinkles as well, and a big rock under the liner ( not Lathams fault) I'm hoping my PB gets a rep out to look at it asap. The temps are going to be in the 20's for days, and I don't know what will happen since it it not operational yet.
Its so frustrating for sure!!!! I hope everything works out for you!
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My apologies...our liner is provided by GLI. They do not need to send out a rep as they clearly see their mistake. They used one of the first drawings we submitted (I think there were 3 in total). GLI has accepted blame and is sending a free replacement.
So now I have to worry what will happen to the pool-crete bottom if they can't get the liner in until spring.

I followed your thread and think you should put up a fight to have it replaced. That rock is a major concern as it will eventually tear through and you'll have a big patch there. I've never had a liner put in so I'm not sure what the acceptability rate should be for wrinkles. Seems like 1 or 2 maybe but not to the extent you have.


I agree, XYZ...doing concrete in spring allows the ground to settle. Builder insists it won't settle much but I don't see the point in rushing it anyway. We won't use the patio in the winter and it's one less winter the patio needs to endure.

My kids were really looking forward to a polar plunge tomorrow but looks like they (and I) will have to wait until the spring.
 
I am going to start telling everyone to shred any old plans so this kind of thing does not happen :( How, oh how does this happen?

I like the idea of the wrong liner being put in to save the floor and such. I would find a way to make sure NO water can get behind the liner even if it takes nailing it to 2x4 and staked in to keep it there.

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Builder is at our house installing the incorrect liner today. It's only purpose is to protect the poolcrete floor. We also finalized our concrete forms - took several reworks but we are finally happy with it...very happy. Going to be about 20 yards of concrete - about 1,600 sqft.

We also discussed some of the plumbing. We are putting in 4 deck jets along one side of the pool. He asked if I wanted those looped or individually plumbed. I have to think about that. Will I ever have a need to not use all 4 equally at the same time? Or just loop them and have one valve at the pad to turn em all on. Maybe I'll want only one to shoot it REALLLLLLY high!?!?

We actually not crazy about our liner color choice. We wanted to change it but it was too late. And GLI wants to charge us more if the remake is a different color. Oh well...it's still an OK liner. We love the bottom color but wanted to change the top to something with Browns and Tans that would match our decking and stone on the house.
In 10yrs or so, we'll be changing it anyway!

Liner is Los Cabos:

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Ok, so I have a math question and thought maybe I could get some help here.

I want to figure out the square footage of concrete that I need. Our pad is free form but the pool is rectangle. If I measure off the perimeter of the concrete and subtract out the pool, can I determine the square footage of concrete?
 
Break the deck up into geometric shapes and calc the areas. Use engineer scale (decimal feet). Multiply area by depth of slab and you'll get cubic feet. Divide by 27 and you'll have cubic yards of concrete to order. Round up to nearest cubic yard so you dont end up short.
 
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Break the deck up into geometric shapes and calc the areas. Use engineer scale (decimal feet). Multiply area by depth of slab and you'll get cubic feet. Divide by 27 and you'll have cubic yards of concrete to order. Round up to nearest cubic yard so you dont end up short.
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That sounds great! When can you come over :cool:

I'll give it a shot when I get home this weekend. It might actually be easier to measure the entire area as a rectangle, then subtract out the non-concrete areas. I don't need to order concrete so I don't need to be exact. I just want to know I'm not getting ripped off when the builder says I need 20 yards. I'm paying per sq.ft. of concrete.
 
I have a rectangle pool. I just poured 22.5 yards of concrete for my deck. I broke the areas up into sections. I did 5ft along the long length, 8ft on the other side. 16 ft on one end, and 3 ft along the opposite end. Unfortunately, I only estimated I'd need 15 yards. So, that extra bill hurt lol. 1 cubic yard at 4 inches thick covers about 81 square feet. My problem was....it was deeper than 4 inches thick in a lot of the area. I think I have around 1400soft. Maybe more. But if you have a depth of 4 inch thick concrete....20 yards sounds about right. May actually be a few more.
So take how many feet out from each side the concrete will go, and times that by the length. Do that for each side to get your sqft of deck. If it's 4 inches thick....divide by 81. Like I said....20 sounds correct, unless you have areas deeper than 4 inches.;)
 
I don't understand why they'd charge more for a different color. Unless they are going to resize your current liner. But to make a new one....? Maybe someone else on here can answer that. I think your current liner will look nice, but if it's not too much more to change it, and you'd be happier...then maybe you should.
 
I suspect it will be thicker than 4" in several areas so it's still going to be hard to predict but I'll try measuring it out this weekend. And I'd rather have it thicker than 4" than thinner.

I'm not going to push the issue on liner color. Looking at the one they put in, we do like it. I suspect the builder was hesitant to 'rock the boat' with the manufacturer after their big error.

Pipes got laid today. Not very deep and certainly not below frost line (maybe 1-1.5ft deep. The rocks are just too big and close to the surface to go deep easily. They used flex pvc around the pool but rigid to run up to the pad.
 

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