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Dchambers25

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Nov 17, 2013
34
Sacramento ca
Thanks Dchamber. Do you think you really need the red gard? I'm thinking of not even using it.
When I got my stacked veneer stone, they told me that I need to mix the veneer mortar with regular S type mortar, because the veneer mortar is too strong. Didn't know why you wouldn't want the strongest mortar? Is there such a thing as too stong??

If you don't do a scratch coat and lathe and paper, then I would definitely do some waterproofing. In my area, the installers do either one, as now it is more of a matter of preference. You could probably get away without the redguard, but I put it on because it couldn't hurt.

I haven't heard about mortar being too strong. Everything I read and researched said the quickcrete veneer stone mortar was a reliable product, and I had no problem during or after the stone install.
 

chris4150

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If you don't do a scratch coat and lathe and paper, then I would definitely do some waterproofing. In my area, the installers do either one, as now it is more of a matter of preference. You could probably get away without the redguard, but I put it on because it couldn't hurt.

I haven't heard about mortar being too strong. Everything I read and researched said the quickcrete veneer stone mortar was a reliable product, and I had no problem during or after the stone install.

You will be fine without the redgaurd. the backer board you used is water and mildew proof once you have applied the mortar for your stone. I just finished my build about a month or so ago. Ill post pics of the build as I havent been on the forum for some time now. Your build looks awesome and reminds me of the 4 weeks it took me to build mine in my spare time and some full days.
 

Dchambers25

Active member
Nov 17, 2013
34
Sacramento ca
You will be fine without the redgaurd. the backer board you used is water and mildew proof once you have applied the mortar for your stone. I just finished my build about a month or so ago. Ill post pics of the build as I havent been on the forum for some time now. Your build looks awesome and reminds me of the 4 weeks it took me to build mine in my spare time and some full days.

Actually, unless he used DensSheild as his backer board, the backer board isn't waterproof. Dens shield makes the only waterproof backer that I know of. The rest of the manufacturers, I.e. hardiebacker, permabase, etc are only water resistant. Being a contractor, I have demo-Ed more than a few baths and have seen those products fail more than a few times, that is if they are installed with no water barrier. That being said, putting on a waterproof barrier on a typical backerboard might be a little overkill if the structure wasn't in constant contact with water. Regardless of the backerboard, once the seams have been mudded, a waterproof agent is needed because thin set is permeable and water can seep through it.


And I agree... Awesome build so far!

David
 

rodog123

Well-known member
Nov 13, 2013
311
Pearland, TX
Question: For the door access under the grill are you using anything to cover up the expossed ground underneath? So items stored are not touching the ground?
 

Orogrande

Active member
Mar 19, 2014
33
Ca
Question: For the door access under the grill are you using anything to cover up the expossed ground underneath? So items stored are not touching the ground?

I put 1/2" hardiboard on the bottom of the frame. Helps to keep items dry and the critters out. I also put Trex board on the bottom to raise it off the ground.

I'm starting on my concrete countertop. I'm using z counterform for the edging and quikrete countertop mix. Hoping to start pouring next weekend.

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Patrick_B

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Jun 7, 2011
15,006
Midland TX
What size were your support brackets? Where did you get them?

Thx,
Dave


It looks like the OP lost interest in continuing his build thread. If you'll notice it looks like he last posted in August, so don't be surprised if he doesn't respond. Perhaps....?
 

RangerBob

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Jun 19, 2014
555
Sanger, TX
The counter tops looks amazing. I hope the ones that I contracted the builder to do come out half as good as yours - Beautiful. -Karen
 

chris fox

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Oct 3, 2013
91
Phoenix area
Nice work! agreed the attention to detail is top notch. Ordered my z counter forms this week but having a hard time finding the quickcrete at my local big boxes.
 

Killer95Stang

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Aug 17, 2012
913
Sunny SoCal
Nice work! agreed the attention to detail is top notch. Ordered my z counter forms this week but having a hard time finding the quickcrete at my local big boxes.

Go to the special order desk at Lowes and they will order the amount you need. Not very many places will have it in stock.
 

RiffeShooter

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Jun 20, 2014
133
Lake Jackson, Texas
Love the look of that concrete color! You may have changed my mind on the granite. The Z-forms snap off and are not reusable right? The last time I thought about the concrete I was thinking of going with that split granite edge. Did you have much finishing work with the Quikcrete mix? Did you get the stain at Lowes as well? Which brand and color is it?
 

Killer95Stang

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Aug 17, 2012
913
Sunny SoCal
Quick question... How did you finish the underside of the bar top ledge (overhang)? Did you just put hardie board under it and leave it as is, or is it open to the steel 2 x 4 frame? I guess it wouldn't matter either way, since only the kids under 4ft tall would see under there? Since I'm in the middle of my framing, I thought about this.

Thanks... I'm also curious on about the countertop stain...
 

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