Is this normal corrosion for a 4 year old Raypak heater?

robwas

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Jul 20, 2019
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New Jersey
Heater not lighting, pulled out the burner tray to see what's up and everything is crumbling from the rust. No active leaks that I can see. Wondering if others have had this happen. Photos attached.
 

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Yup, lots of folks see the natural draft Raypak heaters rust out that way.

That is why every heater manufacturer now has sealed burner forced draft design, including Raypak with their Avia heater.

Look at replacing it with a Pentair MasterTemp, Starite Max-E-Therm, or Raypak Avia.
 
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Yup, lots of folks see the natural draft Raypak heaters rust out that way.

That is why every heater manufacturer now has sealed burner forced draft design, including Raypak with their Avia heater.

Look at replacing it with a Pentair MasterTemp, Starite Max-E-Therm, or Raypak Avia.
Thanks for the quick reply. I guess it's from condensation and lower grade metals, we're in central NJ. What bugs me is I've worked on ancient Hayward comfortzones, Anthony heaters, Laars etc with the same natural draft design and they were 20 years old, still looked brand new new inside. I guess nothing is made like it used to be :(
 
Heater not lighting, pulled out the burner tray to see what's up and everything is crumbling from the rust. No active leaks that I can see. Wondering if others have had this happen. Photos attached.
Not normal, even in New Jersey.
It took a lot of water to do that over a long time. Completely normal when there is a lot of water intrusion into the combustion chamber, as a roof overhead with no gutter. Saw that kill a heater in 1 year after I warned the customer as it had also ruined the heater I was replacing.
Or sprinklers, or a large amount of trees that allow a lot of rainwater to fall onto the heater. With a pH of 7 or less its not so good for equipment.
Or there was/is a tablet feeder in the line that caused damage to the heat exchanger which then leaked, which is my guess at that kind and extent of damage.
Or its a vinyl/fiberglass pool that the pH and alkalinity got way out of recommended levels. Had that combination on an install about 4 years ago. Removed the feeder, customer had it replaced. Never even looked at the pool as I was just there to install the heater. It was a Max-E-Therm. Didn't last 6 months.
Pool water is even worse than rainwater when it gets into a heater. You couple that with the heat inside a heater and even the stainless steel, that most of what is damaged is made from, doesn't stand a chance.
With improper care or maintenance, you can kill any equipment. Not placing blame, just the facts.
 
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Not normal, even in New Jersey.
It took a lot of water to do that over a long time. Completely normal when there is a lot of water intrusion into the combustion chamber, as a roof overhead with no gutter. Saw that kill a heater in 1 year after I warned the customer as it had also ruined the heater I was replacing.
Or sprinklers, or a large amount of trees that allow a lot of rainwater to fall onto the heater. With a pH of 7 or less its not so good for equipment.
Or there was/is a tablet feeder in the line that caused damage to the heat exchanger which then leaked, which is my guess at that kind and extent of damage.
Or its a vinyl/fiberglass pool that the pH and alkalinity got way out of recommended levels. Had that combination on an install about 4 years ago. Removed the feeder, customer had it replaced. Never even looked at the pool as I was just there to install the heater. It was a Max-E-Therm. Didn't last 6 months.
Pool water is even worse than rainwater when it gets into a heater. You couple that with the heat inside a heater and even the stainless steel, that most of what is damaged is made from, doesn't stand a chance.
With improper care or maintenance, you can kill any equipment. Not placing blame, just the facts.
No tablets, salt water pool. Wondering if there was a leak at some point before us that did the damage. I looked closely for leaks in the heat ex changer, manifolds, etc and everything was dry but the internals rusted really badly as you saw in the photos.