In ground pop up heads


New member
Oct 9, 2007
Phoenix, Arizona
I have 20+ year old Shatsta pool w/in ground pop-ups. I do not feel thay work well. Is it possible to bypass the pop-ups and attach a vacuum cleaner (like a Barracuda G4) and if so, how?


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May 7, 2007
Silver Spring, MD
Welcome to TFP!

It is almost always possible to bypass an in floor cleaner though it depends on how your system is plumbed. Hopefully you have a regular return, in addition to the pop-ups. Adding a Barracuda G4 is simple enough once you turn the pop-ups off, just follow the regular directions that come with it.

The Mermaid Queen

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LifeTime Supporter
Mar 28, 2007
Northern KY
waste said:
Hi and welcome to TFP!! :-D

I am a little reluctant to advise someone to abandon a system which has ~ 20 +/- holes in the floor with no good way to plug them :( However, if you would tell us how many regular (wall) returns you have and what suction ports you have (skimmer(s) MD (there ought be a MD!), perhaps a designated vac port - I may be able to come up with something - also what are the pump and filter sizes and styles? What may be happening is that the screen/ filter inside your actuator valve is clogged and/ or the springs on the pop ups have deteriorated. I'm certified to work on Caretaker 99 systems, now Polaris, but I think they all work the same. If you'd let us know a little more about the setup of your pool and system, we'll work out what good advise we can proffer {-for Dave :p ;) -}

I'm here almost daily and will keep my 'eye' on this question and help you all I can :) Again, welcome to TFP :goodjob: